yeah, a civilian not a cop. Id like to give you a few choice words but Ill be very nice and leave things as is. When you need protection or help dont call the paramedics or the police, they multitask when driving!
Why don't police wear gear?
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I agree with this! It's so much disrespect that causes many problems between civilians and the police. It's a vicious cycle that never ends. When did the soccer mom that almost hit you because talking on the cell phone get extensive police training? When was that last time that some idiot who clipped your mirror, while driving with excessive speed take a firefighters driving course? You can't compare apples and oranges. You can't say just because I had this driving license now I can speed. They are trained for what they do and they do it everyday. It comes with the badge, I do agree some police are pigs. I've met and dealt with them, but that doesn't have to include all of them.
Thank you for serving Farva, I really believe you're an honest cop, because of the posts I've read from you
I put dishonest cops up in the category of rapists and serious criminals. I really wish it wasn't like that but many people are some seriously f*&ked up human beings. I also feel bad for the cops who turned dishonest because of an encounter with a criminal, as I said, it's a vicious cycle.
thtpilotguy
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I have a good friend that rides for a police department here in NC, he had to go through an intensive 2 week training in south Carolina before he was allowed to ride oen duty. One week of that training involved him riding 500-750 miles every day in a close enough formation for him to adjust the mirrors on his partners bike. I think that may be a little over kill but they defiantly were ready for formation riding when it came time to actually patrol.
Since this thread has gone the route of "what do you think about cops" I will weigh in.
Farva, I get that it's frustrating to you to be lumped in with the crappy cops. Sorry, but there are a ton of crappy cops out there giving you a bad name. I for one, don't like cops. Every time I get pulled over, I am extreme;y respectful, yes sir, no sir, all the way. I almost never get warnings, and usually get tickets. That's fine, because I speed, so i accept that. BUT, every single time I have had to call the cops, every time they came up woefully short. One for auto theft, once for having my car vandalized, another time when thieves were casing apartments in our complex, and at a few accidents where the other person was at fault. Every single time, the cops involved did jack and shit, and in the process either made it clear they'd rather not be there or gave me shit for being the victim of a crime. So I always hear cops respond with, "yeah you bitch and moan, until you need us." Well, I bitch and moan even then, because every time I've needed a cop, what i got was a glorified ticket mill who would rather be out there padding his stats with tickets than protecting and serving.
I've known other cops personally. I didn't like them either. Played hockey with a cop on my team this past season. he loved to tell his "funny" stories about the people he pulled over and gave tickets to, or if a chick was hot, he'd let her go. I hated that guy, a total douchebag. Laughing off people who's day got ruined with a ticket, deserved or not. I hated his stories, I hated his face, and he was a shitty hockey player to boot.
Now that being said, I do not pass judgment on individuals. As a group, i hate cops. hate them. Sorry Frava. However, I give every single individual cop the benefit of the doubt, and the respect his or her position warrants. Prove themselves to be a good cop and a good dude, and I won't lump them in with the cops I hate. I give every individual a chance, because stereotypes have a kernel of truth but don't apply to the individual until they prove it does.
Farva, you seem like a really good dude. Personally, I wouldn't lump you in with the cops I described. But I certainly haven't met too many that have shown your attitude. It's a shame, because if there were more cops like that, I'd have a much more favorable view of you ladies and gents as a whole.
All that beings said, I totally get the gear issue. Seriously guys, try shooting a handgun in a leather jacket. Especially one made for riding. Way too restrictive. These guys need to be able to hop off the bike and run someone down. Ain't happening in gear. So to the highway bike cops, I do say kudos for risking your skins for the job you do.
Farva, I get that it's frustrating to you to be lumped in with the crappy cops. Sorry, but there are a ton of crappy cops out there giving you a bad name. I for one, don't like cops. Every time I get pulled over, I am extreme;y respectful, yes sir, no sir, all the way. I almost never get warnings, and usually get tickets. That's fine, because I speed, so i accept that. BUT, every single time I have had to call the cops, every time they came up woefully short. One for auto theft, once for having my car vandalized, another time when thieves were casing apartments in our complex, and at a few accidents where the other person was at fault. Every single time, the cops involved did jack and shit, and in the process either made it clear they'd rather not be there or gave me shit for being the victim of a crime. So I always hear cops respond with, "yeah you bitch and moan, until you need us." Well, I bitch and moan even then, because every time I've needed a cop, what i got was a glorified ticket mill who would rather be out there padding his stats with tickets than protecting and serving.
I've known other cops personally. I didn't like them either. Played hockey with a cop on my team this past season. he loved to tell his "funny" stories about the people he pulled over and gave tickets to, or if a chick was hot, he'd let her go. I hated that guy, a total douchebag. Laughing off people who's day got ruined with a ticket, deserved or not. I hated his stories, I hated his face, and he was a shitty hockey player to boot.
Now that being said, I do not pass judgment on individuals. As a group, i hate cops. hate them. Sorry Frava. However, I give every single individual cop the benefit of the doubt, and the respect his or her position warrants. Prove themselves to be a good cop and a good dude, and I won't lump them in with the cops I hate. I give every individual a chance, because stereotypes have a kernel of truth but don't apply to the individual until they prove it does.
Farva, you seem like a really good dude. Personally, I wouldn't lump you in with the cops I described. But I certainly haven't met too many that have shown your attitude. It's a shame, because if there were more cops like that, I'd have a much more favorable view of you ladies and gents as a whole.
All that beings said, I totally get the gear issue. Seriously guys, try shooting a handgun in a leather jacket. Especially one made for riding. Way too restrictive. These guys need to be able to hop off the bike and run someone down. Ain't happening in gear. So to the highway bike cops, I do say kudos for risking your skins for the job you do.
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UK motorcycle police appear to wear more protective gear
http://www.policemotorunits.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/webassets/.pond/CarBike2LARGE.jpg.w560h392.jpg
http://www.policemotorunits.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/webassets/.pond/CarBike2LARGE.jpg.w560h392.jpg
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Because the motorcycle cops are not involved in the "real" police work.
They can't engage in pursuit because the Hardly Movingstons they ride are not capable of anything outside of the parade/escort duties.
I know one Chief of Police and we spoke on that matter. The PDs get these couches on wheels for extremely low cost and the company gets a some publicity/recognition in return. Yes, the cops get the M/C training, but no civilian is prevented to become as good or better rider, just at one's own cost.
Now, if anyone wants to see how it is done in Japan:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCGaQMgkzw8&list=FL_TIKbRhonAPJvVhe40Tnmw&index=12&feature=plpp_video[/ame]
They can't engage in pursuit because the Hardly Movingstons they ride are not capable of anything outside of the parade/escort duties.
I know one Chief of Police and we spoke on that matter. The PDs get these couches on wheels for extremely low cost and the company gets a some publicity/recognition in return. Yes, the cops get the M/C training, but no civilian is prevented to become as good or better rider, just at one's own cost.
Now, if anyone wants to see how it is done in Japan:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCGaQMgkzw8&list=FL_TIKbRhonAPJvVhe40Tnmw&index=12&feature=plpp_video[/ame]
Because the motorcycle cops are not involved in the "real" police work.
They can't engage in pursuit because the Hardly Movingstons they ride are not capable of anything outside of the parade/escort duties.
I know one Chief of Police and we spoke on that matter. The PDs get these couches on wheels for extremely low cost and the company gets a some publicity/recognition in return. Yes, the cops get the M/C training, but no civilian is prevented to become as good or better rider, just at one's own cost.
Now, if anyone wants to see how it is done in Japan:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCGaQMgkzw8&list=FL_TIKbRhonAPJvVhe40Tnmw&index=12&feature=plpp_video[/ame]
They can't engage in pursuit because the Hardly Movingstons they ride are not capable of anything outside of the parade/escort duties.
I know one Chief of Police and we spoke on that matter. The PDs get these couches on wheels for extremely low cost and the company gets a some publicity/recognition in return. Yes, the cops get the M/C training, but no civilian is prevented to become as good or better rider, just at one's own cost.
Now, if anyone wants to see how it is done in Japan:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCGaQMgkzw8&list=FL_TIKbRhonAPJvVhe40Tnmw&index=12&feature=plpp_video[/ame]
DiabloValleyFZ6R
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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl9nkgH3HyI[/ame]
this video should answer all questions
this video should answer all questions
Hey, come work in Wash. Co. here in MN!! Arrange for a sister county transfer!
Washington county here used to have some descent roads.. On a side note, since talking about bike patrol. MN HP just announced (last week I think it was) that they are getting rid of the Motorcycle Mounted Patrol. Not enough officers willing to do it.
Saw my first Bike officer the other day on my way to work though. City of Edina Officer trolling in his saddlebags (probably for ticket book
) in a 7 squad speed trap zone. *suprised people speed there.. there are ALWAYS speed traps there like 1-2x per week lately. For any MN people riding in these areas
*hwy 100 in Edina
*hwy 62 in Edina
*694 in Minnetonka to Eden Prairie
Holy crap that guy makes TheRook look like a pit bike rider bhaahaa hes a sickoo!!!
No offence to any cops but....
maybe the layer of doughnut fat will protect them???:surrender:
Hello Mr Officer. Having fun???
You caught one haha!!!
Are you joking, or ignorant?
I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to really disagree with this statement here...
There is plenty of gear out there that will still allow you to move while wearing but protect you extremely well.
For instance...
Leatt Body Protector Adventure - Dirt Bike Motocross - Motorcycle Superstore
OR
Something like this would be outstanding with use of a bullet proof vest:
Dainese Hybrid Shirt - RevZilla
Something of this nature will save your arms from being torn to shreds and in a fight you can easily just use those hard plates to your advantage by pounding the offender with those vs your own body...
Some more stuff for you:
Motorcycle Protection & Armor - RevZilla
Dainese Norsorex Pants - RevZilla
That's all stuff that will protect you but still allow for you to move around a lot without issue... Your argument that you still need to be able to move around is a piss pore argument IMO and you really need to re-evaluate your riding gear.
Just about any of the under armor wear type stuff can be worn under your uniform with next to no lose in ability to maneuver yourself off of your bike and in a fight. If anything this type of gear will only help keep you safe, even in a fight. I don't want to hear any excuses that you can't protect yourself on a bike even in uniform...
I would be scurred if the motors around here were on those (they drive the 800lb Harley's)...
I'm not discounting the skills of any police officer on a motorcycle. But...this video of Japan seems more practical to me...yeah it takes skill to move a 800lb machine slow and controlled through tight turns. Nooo doubt! But, I'd prefer a quick and nimble policeman covering my back, who can do tight turns at speed.
I guess it depends on your area, and the driving conditions. Traffic conditions and roads around here don't require smaller profiled bikes...there's a lot more lane room and shoulders and what not. But still...it'd be badass. They'd be like ninjas on wheels.
*edit: thanks for posting BoneJj...seems like a reasonable counter argument to me...is it a cost thing that prevents it from becoming a reality?
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Is that Punch or John?! I can;t tell!!Hello Mr Officer. Having fun???