Yet another great MotoGP race for 2011 at Jerez...

[Heineken]

Lorenzo takes first for Yamaha, Pedrosa on second for Honda and Hayden closes the podium on third for Ducati. For those who didn't watch the race, Rossi "cleared" Stoner, and then got back on 5th place, what a race...

My favorite Ben Spies was on second place when he crashed with 3 laps to go... rotten luck.


But this is priceless:

TwitGP: Stoner Applauds Rossi

 

[JonKerr]

Well, this race is the exact reason I hate rain races in any form of motorsport. Sorry, I'm a huge Yamaha fan and a big supporter of Spies. But Lorenzo was FAR from the fastest guy. In fact, he was pretty much a snail out there. He just was able to stay on the bike when everyone else was pushing too hard. He did do a great job of riding with his head, but I like to watch a race where the fastest riders can push themselves to the limit. That can't be done in the rain.

Rossi made a rookie mistake. I can't stand Stoner, but that really sucks for him. And I was really pulling for Simonchelli. But he made the same mistake of pushing too hard in the rain. Get them on a dry track and I think the fastest guys would have blown the doors off Lorenzo. Unfortunately I just don't think the Yamaha is the best bike this year.

 

[ajskillz13]

True, but that's what made today so great... The riders had to depend on their skills, not just how the bike is performing. I'd rather see a race like this than see one manufacturer dominate all season.

 

[Rookasaki]

True, but that's what made today so great... The riders had to depend on their skills, not just how the bike is performing. I'd rather see a race like this than see one manufacturer dominate all season.

I agree. Maybe Lorenzo was slow, however he was able to take 1st. He was the smarter one out there and knew his limits in the rain. It was awesome to see rossi take out stoner

 

[Diluted]

Just watched it on the DVR..I don't know much about it but it was cool to watch :rof:

 

[JonKerr]

Just watched it on the DVR..I don't know much about it but it was cool to watch :rof:

The more you watch, the more you'll get hooked, and the more you'll learn and you'll start to form your own opinions and views of racing. As you can see, we don't always agree! A lot of people are wrong and don't agree with me. j/k

 

[Diluted]

The more you watch, the more you'll get hooked, and the more you'll learn and you'll start to form your own opinions and views of racing. As you can see, we don't always agree! A lot of people are wrong and don't agree with me. j/k

:rof:

I'll be DVR'ing the rest of them so I can check them out! I guess I just have to pick a person to cheer on huh?

 

[JonKerr]

You don't have to. A lot of the fans are more a fan of a team than the individual riders. Kind of like a lot of F1 fans. You'll have Ferrari fans, McLaren fans. In MotoGP you get a lot of Ducati fans, Honda fans, etc... Although just as anyone who has dominated any sport, Rossi has a huge following all his own all over the world. It is kind of mind blowing to a lot of Americans, but MotoGP is third only to F1 and Soccer as far as popularity in other parts of the world. The popularity NASCAR has here in the States is nothing compared to it.

Personally, I'm a big Spies fan. He seems to be the most humble and down to earth rider out there. It helps that he's on the Yamaha. I also really like Marco Simoncelli and of course, Nicky Hayden. I don't mind Rossi but I like seeing others able to finally beat him. I'm not a fan of Lorenzo, Stoner, or Pedrosa. Those three seem to be the biggest whiners on the paddock IMO.

 

[Superzoom]

Although wet races aren't that much fun to watch sometimes, they really separate the men from the boys. The smoothest, most skilled riders will really run away from the others on a wet track. I remember watching Michael Shumacher destroy the others in F1 whenever it rained. Nothing to do with the cars. Everything to do with incredible ability to ride on the very edge of traction in the wet.

Well, this race is the exact reason I hate rain races in any form of motorsport. Sorry, I'm a huge Yamaha fan and a big supporter of Spies. But Lorenzo was FAR from the fastest guy. In fact, he was pretty much a snail out there. He just was able to stay on the bike when everyone else was pushing too hard. He did do a great job of riding with his head, but I like to watch a race where the fastest riders can push themselves to the limit. That can't be done in the rain.

Rossi made a rookie mistake. I can't stand Stoner, but that really sucks for him. And I was really pulling for Simonchelli. But he made the same mistake of pushing too hard in the rain. Get them on a dry track and I think the fastest guys would have blown the doors off Lorenzo. Unfortunately I just don't think the Yamaha is the best bike this year.

 

[JonKerr]

Although wet races aren't that much fun to watch sometimes, they really separate the men from the boys. The smoothest, most skilled riders will really run away from the others on a wet track. I remember watching Michael Shumacher destroy the others in F1 whenever it rained. Nothing to do with the cars. Everything to do with incredible ability to ride on the very edge of traction in the wet.

I agree the better riders/driver sometimes run better in the rain. But but a lot of times it does have a lot to do with the bike or car. The slower vehicles are easier to ride/drive in the lower traction conditions. Sebastian Vettel even said that when he won in the Torro Rosso in the wet. The car was one of the slowest out there and it made it easier to drive for him. For me it doesn't make for good racing usually. Nothing but attrition. Plus you look at an incident like what happened with Rossi and Stoner. Stoner was running pretty well, not ballistic fast, but solid and smooth. Rossi who's in a huge rush to prove he can win on the Ducati and who doesn't get a log with Stoner to begin with, makes a dumb mistake and takes both of them out. Now I know that can and does happen in the dry too. But it seems to happen a lot more in the wet. But in the rain, the best bikes and the best riders don't always win. Those who are lucky enough to not get themselves in trouble or not get involved in other peoples mistakes are the ones who do well. Sorry, but you can't tell me Aoyama is a better smoother rider than the likes of Rossi, Spies, and Simoncelli. He was in the back of the pack, slow, and didn't get caught up in someone else mistake or make one of his own.

 

[Uno979]

I need a @;$-@:$;3'amd schedule!!

 

[JonKerr]

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[Superzoom]

Good observations, John. All I know is that I suck in the rain (hence my self-admittance that I'm a mediocre rider)! But riding in the rain has taught me to be super smooth. Luckily the FZ6R is a smooth bike as well. My torquey Sportster used to get me in trouble on slippery surfaces.

I agree the better riders/driver sometimes run better in the rain. But but a lot of times it does have a lot to do with the bike or car. The slower vehicles are easier to ride/drive in the lower traction conditions. Sebastian Vettel even said that when he won in the Torro Rosso in the wet. The car was one of the slowest out there and it made it easier to drive for him. For me it doesn't make for good racing usually. Nothing but attrition. Plus you look at an incident like what happened with Rossi and Stoner. Stoner was running pretty well, not ballistic fast, but solid and smooth. Rossi who's in a huge rush to prove he can win on the Ducati and who doesn't get a log with Stoner to begin with, makes a dumb mistake and takes both of them out. Now I know that can and does happen in the dry too. But it seems to happen a lot more in the wet. But in the rain, the best bikes and the best riders don't always win. Those who are lucky enough to not get themselves in trouble or not get involved in other peoples mistakes are the ones who do well. Sorry, but you can't tell me Aoyama is a better smoother rider than the likes of Rossi, Spies, and Simoncelli. He was in the back of the pack, slow, and didn't get caught up in someone else mistake or make one of his own.

 

[Heineken]

But in the rain, the best bikes and the best riders don't always win. Those who are lucky enough to not get themselves in trouble or not get involved in other peoples mistakes are the ones who do well. Sorry, but you can't tell me Aoyama is a better smoother rider than the likes of Rossi, Spies, and Simoncelli. He was in the back of the pack, slow, and didn't get caught up in someone else mistake or make one of his own.

Funny that you mention that, btw did Lorenzo pass anyone this race?? or the front guys just crashed out in front of him )

 

[99vengeur]

I need a @;$-@:$;3'amd schedule!!

Funny you say that...I actually set an alarm to get up early enough Sunday to watch the race. They are usually on in the afternoon, but when I was looking at the TV guide, I couldn't find it. So I back tracked it and it was on a 7 AM, so I set a reminder and an alarm. The Moto2 and 125cc races are on Tuesday around noon.

Anywho, I thought it was a good race. I was pretty PO'ed that the track officials swarmed Rossi to get his bike restarted, and Stoner had to urge the guys to give him a hand, but even then didn't get the bike restarted. I was shocked to see that nearly a third of the field crashed out. Dedication! Even in the rain, some of the guys are going to push hard. When Spies crashed out with 3 laps left, I nearly :rant: and woke my wife up.

 

[Heineken]

Funny you say that...I actually set an alarm to get up early enough Sunday to watch the race. They are usually on in the afternoon, but when I was looking at the TV guide, I couldn't find it. So I back tracked it and it was on a 7 AM, so I set a reminder and an alarm. The Moto2 and 125cc races are on Tuesday around noon.

Haven't watched the 125cc race yet, but the moto2 was worth watching, I didn't wake up for either races, the website video pass allows it to watch the races at your own convenience ("convenience"- read $140).

Uno the races schedule are available at motogp website and you can click on the race time, and will adjust to you local time.

 

[CrazyCawi]

I cant find any vids of the rossi crash :-/ anyone else able to find it?

 

[Detrich]

i don't have cable or a mgp membership... please explain. did rossi force stoner to crash?

 

[Diluted]

i don't have cable or a mgp membership... please explain. did rossi force stoner to crash?

Yeah, Rossi tried to pass Stoner on the inside and due to the wet conditions he went down taking Stoner out in the process. Rossi's bike restarted, Stoners did not.

 

[Marthy]

I haven't watch the race, but from reading all your commentsthis is what I can say. Racing is not about the best bike or the best driver. It's all about the best package. From the boys at the shop preping the bike, to the person in charge of booking the rooms, the trucky, crews, engineers and driver. When all that can all come together as one, then we call that a team. Race team win races and championship. Of course some team have better equipments, other just work harder and get much out of what they have. And once in a while luck change everything! If you don't have it on your side, it sucks!

So for this gentleman who drove the race of his life beating the big boys, well good for him. He had the "rain package" for this weekend... At the end of the day racing is kind of like going to war... it's not always the one with the bigger gun that win, sometime it's just the last one standing. He kept both wheels on the track and finish first...