Thanks for that, I guess your right and it's better to protect yourself than be left wondering what would happen if u didn't. & I like the comparison at the the end, made me laugh a bit.
Gun Talk Thread
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There are States where you can open carry in the US. I do think that open carrying can invite and attract trouble. But concealed is just peace of mind. I'm considering getting my concealed permit. Not that I spend a lot of time in high crime areas. But there have been many instances when I've wished I had something more than a cell phone to make me feel more protected.
Gun Safety
IMHO, kids should be taught to respect guns, not just told, don't touch them (I know what I did as a kid when I was told not to touch something...). Having several pistols and other various rifles, I taught my kids very young how to approach them, what to do if they came across one or another kid with one, etc. I didn't have any rifles / pistols growing up, but my Uncle was a hunter, so I had plenty of exposure whenever I visited my cousins, almost every week.
I know a few people who have had bad experiences and don't want anything to do with them... I respect that... I also know others who I've taken to a range with me that very soon after, go the itch to get their own..
feel free to add to teh conversation now
so as not to drag on a FS thread...
IMHO, kids should be taught to respect guns, not just told, don't touch them (I know what I did as a kid when I was told not to touch something...). Having several pistols and other various rifles, I taught my kids very young how to approach them, what to do if they came across one or another kid with one, etc. I didn't have any rifles / pistols growing up, but my Uncle was a hunter, so I had plenty of exposure whenever I visited my cousins, almost every week.
I know a few people who have had bad experiences and don't want anything to do with them... I respect that... I also know others who I've taken to a range with me that very soon after, go the itch to get their own..
feel free to add to teh conversation now
vkamnev
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You, Americans, are just crazy... Buying a gun at Walmart or just mailing. It with USPS? I wish I could do the same... Would I do that? No. Even though I had three guns (legal), I wish no more such responsibility. Only live I want to held full responsibility for is my own (and a little more for my little baby girl and only till she's still a kid). But have such right is just awesome
danieljardim
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I've being to a shooting range before with rifle and pistol. It was fun but not enough to make me buy one.so as not to drag on a FS thread...
IMHO, kids should be taught to respect guns, not just told, don't touch them (I know what I did as a kid when I was told not to touch something...). Having several pistols and other various rifles, I taught my kids very young how to approach them, what to do if they came across one or another kid with one, etc. I didn't have any rifles / pistols growing up, but my Uncle was a hunter, so I had plenty of exposure whenever I visited my cousins, almost every week.
I know a few people who have had bad experiences and don't want anything to do with them... I respect that... I also know others who I've taken to a range with me that very soon after, go the itch to get their own..
feel free to add to teh conversation now
(I do like to shoot people on COD
and my son with his little nerf gun)
vkamnev
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By the way, can I get any rifle (full automatic) in some states? I really liked AK-102 on the range other day and want to try Gatling gun as well
It is nice to know that we can protect ourselves with equal force if the need ever came down to it. Stricter gun laws only hurt lawful citizens. Criminals do not obey gun laws (thats why they are criminals). So as long as guns are out there and being used in crimes, I will use one to defend myself. A bat or a knife does not do much against a bullet or other deadly weapon. Distance is your best friend.
My responsibility lies in protecting myself and my family. I will do so at all costs. This is a crazy world we live in, that's for sure. The day we lose that right will be a very very bad day. It will not cause any less violence, crime, murder, etc. We will all become victims. When criminals know citizens are unarmed, they are fearless. We do not want that.
No fully auto unless they are pre ban and manufactured I believe before 1986. I could be wrong on the year. TONS of regulation and tax stamp to legally own. Cost is VERY high.
You also can get post ban automatics, but you have to go through all the hoops to become in possession of a Class 3 dealer license if I'm not mistaken, which is also a ton of money lol
vkamnev
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No questions about having the right, but what bothers me that you can buy it anywhere just because you want it. I think (and as I did it) person who wants a gun shall go through some courses how to store and use it with complex examination on that. And I do agree the possibility that a victim caries a gun greatly reduces the chances of crime. US politic once said that weapon is an insurance that government won't do stupid things (sorry for bad quote)
vkamnev
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I just saw a movie where a guy buys an Uzi with only driver license. So I was wandering if it is documentary or fake. I think that was Arizona or Arkazas.
Way oversimplified for what they do in Illinois at least. I had to give my Drivers License #, Name, DOB, Address, a bunch of questions if I was a legal US citizen and to see if I was a crazy person or not, along with a background check through the state police. Then had to wait 3 days to pick up the pistol after that.
Pretty sure nowhere in the US can you just waltz into a store, purchase the gun and walk out with it right then an there, most places have the waiting period and that whole list of crap you have to fill out.
Yeah, they all have to run through the checks. Some states have waiting periods and some do not though. Many states allow Face to Face deals where no background check is necessary. You do not have to go through a dealer to verify the buyer is not a criminal if it is a private party sale between two individuals in the same state.
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vkamnev
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It was two days in a movie. But it was fully automatic Uzi.
Yeah that is definitely not how that would work.
vkamnev
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I do not question anything you say, and even more I'd trust you more. Just curious how it does work for such weapon
In MN I I can walk in and walk out with a rifle or AR the same day, just simple background check.
Hand gun I apply for a permit to buy, takes up to a week for the checks. Then can go to store and buy guns any time that year with just an instant background check.
Time to renew my permit to buy. Though thinking of upgrading to permit to carry, would be good for 2 yrs then.
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Since it is a full auto, it falls under the regulations I posted earlier about tax stamp and lots of hoops to jump through. Definitely not a same day thing.
In the good old state of PA, you can walk in to a store, fill out some paperwork, wait for the background check (20 minutes) and walk out with your new Rifle, Shotgun, Pistol. No more waiting periods here.