Epitome Of Squids....first hand

[CrazyCawi]

Alright so let me start this off with I went in to my local yamaha dealer to check if the clutch lever was in stock for my Seca 750 as I ordered it a few weeks ago and this is what I couldnt help but stumble across:

Two college kids in the shop waiting for the one kids bike. Now keep in mind it was roughly about 43* out with mixed rain throughout the day. Now while im waiting in line to talk to the service manager he is discussing the bike to the one kid. Apparently he brought his "New" bike in to get it inspected and to make sure everything is up to snuff beings he just got the bike, AND his permit! Well In the conversation between the two college kids and the Service manager and it went as follows

Service manager: "Well it looks like everythign on your bike looks good, except the rear tire, its considerable worn down the center, past the wear bar markings"

kid who brought the bike in: "Well the guy I bought it from said they had alot of life left in them."

Service manager: "Well I can see where he might say that selling you your first bike, but I really dont recommend riding on this rear tire, its bad"

second kid: "When I looked at it I thought it was good too, just pay your bill forget the tire"

Kid who brought the bike in: (paid bill) and as they walked off he said "I dont think that guy knows what he is talking about, the guy I bought it from said he races I think he probably knows a little more than him."

Second kid: "I think the tires were made for drag so you have more surface in contact with the ground"

By this point I was laughing so hard inside yet I felt so bad for these kids, I wanted to tel them they should reconsider the information but at this point I knew it wasnt going to do any good. The kid who brought his bike in to get looked at was in a sweat shirt and a camel back....he rode his bike there without a helmet....with his permit...(Illegal in this state)...and so while I finished up with the service manager I walked out and I know it was semi on the creep level but I HAD to capture the ignorance of these two kids....The one is in a sweat shirt and a camel back who came in without a helmet, and buys one(thankfully) to ride home with...and the second is in a snowmobile jacket which offers no protection for the road what so ever....these kids have litterally zero protection other than helmets....it just really bothered me, then to see the ignorance that will follow these pictures...:surrender:

(the guy on the yellow r6 is the guy who JUST BOUGHT THE R6, has his permit, and didnt have a helmet untill he bought one)

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HERE IS THE KICKER

I pulled up behind them as they are sitting at the stop light, the guy on the left was revvving his bike in first gear moving back and fourth show boating with his other noob friend...They look at one another...and blow through the very visible red light....and they took off into town at a VERY high rate of speed.....

Here are my vids of these squids.... the first one is of them screwing around revving their bikes, I put the camera down before they noticed me, and missed them high revving in first, the second video of them is them running the light. I honestly am disgusted at the behavior of these guys and I feel so bad for the one kid who just bought his bike and he is being shown all of these bad behaviors.....

YouTube - Squid part 1

YouTube - Squids part 2

Please dont flame me for this...I just was baffled at these two...and to second guess the service manager about the tire? They brought it their to be INSPECTED...:rant:

 

[Detrich]

Ack... Hope they learn the right way to ride b4 they get hurt... =(

 

[CrazyCawi]

I couldnt believe they ran the light...I dont care about the gear really....but running a red light turning left crossing two lanes.....just blew me away....

 

[motoguy82]

Unfortunately some people have to learn things the hard way...bad thing is that on a motorcycle, the hard way can easily kill you.

 

[AFDavis11]

I love stories with pictures and videos. Kinda neat.

 

[2010FZ6R White Lightning]

thats retarded. we have someone like that with a 750 gixxer down the street from me that is at 13 grand on the tach everywhere he goes, just haulin ass. he lane splits like crazy and is a corpse waiting to happen. now heres the kicker of this story, on a regular basis he goes to the macs with helmet, shorts, no shirt, sandals, gets a large slurlee and rides back with it shifting gears without the clutch and with the slurpee in the left hand. his rear wheel locks up or skids momentarily everytime he forces a gear. and i feel bad for his bike

 

[99vengeur]

You have the evidence, their plates are clearly legible...take the video to the local authorities and see if you can get a citation issued for those two @$$hats!!

Tell them that you watched them drive wrecklessly before turning on the camera. And that you caught them blow the red light and speed into town well above the posted speed limit. You might get lucky and have tickets issued to teach them a lesson.

 

[Sparkxx1]

You have the evidence, their plates are clearly legible...take the video to the local authorities and see if you can get a citation issued for those two @$$hats!!

Tell them that you watched them drive wrecklessly before turning on the camera. And that you caught them blow the red light and speed into town well above the posted speed limit. You might get lucky and have tickets issued to teach them a lesson.

Agreed if they have the money to buy bikes, run red lights, and speed. They should take responsibility for their actions. I think they would also get reckless driving thrown in there!

I drive my bike right now without a full license. That doesn't mean I have to be an asshat and risk my life and others. I'm getting my license on May 3rd, but I'm glad I've never been as stupid as these two. Once upon a time I thought getting a kawi zx6r would be awesome as a first bike. I'm glad I researched my ass out of that opinion!

 

[Spunky99]

Great job with the pics and videos. I carry a video cam with me all the time just for these occasions. You hit the lottery on this one.

Don't bother with the Police as you will get subjected to suspicion and questioned about motive etc. Waste of time as they won't bother to go after them anyway.

From an educational standpoint, this was excellent and you brought to the forum some really great training info for us all.

Thanks

 

[CrazyCawi]

You have the evidence, their plates are clearly legible...take the video to the local authorities and see if you can get a citation issued for those two @$$hats!!

Tell them that you watched them drive wrecklessly before turning on the camera. And that you caught them blow the red light and speed into town well above the posted speed limit. You might get lucky and have tickets issued to teach them a lesson.

I already did....but I didnt want you guys to think I was a dueche bag for doing it.......I felt I was saving someones life the hard way but Id rather have it this way then broken bones or death. In my state they atleast have to go to the residence and warn the drivers, in this case the st. cloud police department issued two sherrifs one to each residence and issued citations. They useed the street cameras as I was able to instruct them which intersections they went through. After locating them on the cameras they said it looks above 100mph for an extended period coming into st cloud. Id hate to see those kids faces when they saw the police....

 

[ironcrossmike]

Future Darwinism Award winners!

 

[JonKerr]

I would report them too. That's the biggest problem with the sportbike world. You get so many squids who talk their friends into getting bikes and they pass on the stupidity. Dumb ass movies like Biker Boyz and shows like Stealth Rider don't really do much to help. People see these assholes on bike and make their assumptions about all of us. I had some Harley guy at our local car show last year who wouldn't believe me that I haven't run from the cops, done wheelies on the street, etc... He had the stereotype in his mind, and that's all he can think of when he see's a sportbike.

The MSF class and the DMV permit precess is just too damn soft. Education is everything and it's what 90% of riders lack. It's too easy to get a motorcycle permit and license. They need to have more than just a 50 question test to get a permit. They should have to go through classes just to get the permit. This crap of letting people ride any bike they want, in almost any condition, without ever even swinging a leg over a bike just because they passed a VERY simple written DMV test is bullshit. When I went through the process, I went and took the test and got my permit first. My riding experience was 2 days on a dirt bike a month before. (they didn't know I had that even) When I got to my dad's house the next day, I realized I could legally hop on his 1450cc Harley and take it out on the street having never been on the road on a bike. No education given to me, nothing. Obviously I didn't. I took the MSF class a week later and passed easily. That class also opened my eyes to how dangerously easy it is to get your license. My aunt took it with me. She's terrible! She did everything but drop her bike (I'm talking, put her foot down 6 times in the u-turn test bad) and they passed her to get her license. She's so bad, my uncle ended up chopping the back off the Sportster they bought her and turned it into a trike because she kept crashing it and dropping it as a bike. And they passed her saying she's safe to ride on the street in any condition.

 

[99vengeur]

I would report them too. That's the biggest problem with the sportbike world. You get so many squids who talk their friends into getting bikes and they pass on the stupidity. Dumb ass movies like Biker Boyz and shows like Stealth Rider don't really do much to help. People see these assholes on bike and make their assumptions about all of us. I had some Harley guy at our local car show last year who wouldn't believe me that I haven't run from the cops, done wheelies on the street, etc... He had the stereotype in his mind, and that's all he can think of when he see's a sportbike.

The MSF class and the DMV permit precess is just too damn soft. Education is everything and it's what 90% of riders lack. It's too easy to get a motorcycle permit and license. They need to have more than just a 50 question test to get a permit. They should have to go through classes just to get the permit. This crap of letting people ride any bike they want, in almost any condition, without ever even swinging a leg over a bike just because they passed a VERY simple written DMV test is bullshit. When I went through the process, I went and took the test and got my permit first. My riding experience was 2 days on a dirt bike a month before. (they didn't know I had that even) When I got to my dad's house the next day, I realized I could legally hop on his 1450cc Harley and take it out on the street having never been on the road on a bike. No education given to me, nothing. Obviously I didn't. I took the MSF class a week later and passed easily. That class also opened my eyes to how dangerously easy it is to get your license. My aunt took it with me. She's terrible! She did everything but drop her bike (I'm talking, put her foot down 6 times in the u-turn test bad) and they passed her to get her license. She's so bad, my uncle ended up chopping the back off the Sportster they bought her and turned it into a trike because she kept crashing it and dropping it as a bike. And they passed her saying she's safe to ride on the street in any condition.

You are absolutely right about the process for getting a license. It's so bad in Louisiana that the DMV even had incorrect answers as the right response for the written test. When I finished my written test and had it scored, I had to let them know that their answers were wrong.

 

[99vengeur]

I already did....but I didnt want you guys to think I was a dueche bag for doing it.......I felt I was saving someones life the hard way but Id rather have it this way then broken bones or death. In my state they atleast have to go to the residence and warn the drivers, in this case the st. cloud police department issued two sherrifs one to each residence and issued citations. They useed the street cameras as I was able to instruct them which intersections they went through. After locating them on the cameras they said it looks above 100mph for an extended period coming into st cloud. Id hate to see those kids faces when they saw the police....

I doubt they learn much from it, but at least it was a costly lesson.

 

[CrazyCawi]

prolly just thought who ever called them in was a dick and let em "RIDE FREE"

 

[NoDoze]

I would report them too. That's the biggest problem with the sportbike world. You get so many squids who talk their friends into getting bikes and they pass on the stupidity. Dumb ass movies like Biker Boyz and shows like Stealth Rider don't really do much to help. People see these assholes on bike and make their assumptions about all of us. I had some Harley guy at our local car show last year who wouldn't believe me that I haven't run from the cops, done wheelies on the street, etc... He had the stereotype in his mind, and that's all he can think of when he see's a sportbike.

The MSF class and the DMV permit precess is just too damn soft. Education is everything and it's what 90% of riders lack. It's too easy to get a motorcycle permit and license. They need to have more than just a 50 question test to get a permit. They should have to go through classes just to get the permit. This crap of letting people ride any bike they want, in almost any condition, without ever even swinging a leg over a bike just because they passed a VERY simple written DMV test is bullshit. When I went through the process, I went and took the test and got my permit first. My riding experience was 2 days on a dirt bike a month before. (they didn't know I had that even) When I got to my dad's house the next day, I realized I could legally hop on his 1450cc Harley and take it out on the street having never been on the road on a bike. No education given to me, nothing. Obviously I didn't. I took the MSF class a week later and passed easily. That class also opened my eyes to how dangerously easy it is to get your license. My aunt took it with me. She's terrible! She did everything but drop her bike (I'm talking, put her foot down 6 times in the u-turn test bad) and they passed her to get her license. She's so bad, my uncle ended up chopping the back off the Sportster they bought her and turned it into a trike because she kept crashing it and dropping it as a bike. And they passed her saying she's safe to ride on the street in any condition.

Two Words: Tiered Licensing

Require more education, awareness and experience on each displacement platform. More than just a few words in Driver's ed, training and DMV tests about motorcycles so people expect us to be out there driving along with them.

 

[Deputyfarva252]

Hell i wish more people would have this type of information and proof when they report someone , i dont think your a douche at all , makes me wish you lived in my county , good stuff brother

 

[Ledgini]

Having read the posts here I think its crazy that you can get a bike license just from a written test.

In the UK before you are allowed to even ride a bike you have to do a full day training course called "compulsary basic training". The days course teaches you road safety and awareness and is a good building block for riders. When you have completed the course you are only allowed to ride a bike max 125cc in power for 2 years with "learner" plates. If you want a bigger bike you have to take three additional tests within the two years.

Test 1 - 50 questions on the highway code and 5 hazard perception videos where you must click the mouse on any observed danger.

Test 2 - A ridden test with an examiner on a closed tarmac yard. This one is slow manouvres through different coned off areas for bike control but also has a swerve & brake test at 50 kph to teach accident avoidence.

Test 3 - A 45 minute ride on the roads with an examiner following you. You are allowed 15 minor faults ( i.e balance, throttle control etc etc) but 1 major fault is a straight fail ( leaving an indicator on, not doing a lifesaver observation etc etc).

If you are under 21, even if you do all this you are not allowed any bike, you are restricted to 33bhp (400cc approx) and if you are older but do the test on a 125cc you are still restricted to 33bhp for 2 years. If you do the test on a 500cc bike at over 21 you can then ride any bike.

Its complicated and costs a lot of money to do but you do have a fair level of experience when you get your full license.

 

[Hoops 09Raven]

Having read the posts here I think its crazy that you can get a bike license just from a written test.

In the UK before you are allowed to even ride a bike you have to do a full day training course called "compulsary basic training". The days course teaches you road safety and awareness and is a good building block for riders. When you have completed the course you are only allowed to ride a bike max 125cc in power for 2 years with "learner" plates. If you want a bigger bike you have to take three additional tests within the two years.

Test 1 - 50 questions on the highway code and 5 hazard perception videos where you must click the mouse on any observed danger.

Test 2 - A ridden test with an examiner on a closed tarmac yard. This one is slow manouvres through different coned off areas for bike control but also has a swerve & brake test at 50 kph to teach accident avoidence.

Test 3 - A 45 minute ride on the roads with an examiner following you. You are allowed 15 minor faults ( i.e balance, throttle control etc etc) but 1 major fault is a straight fail ( leaving an indicator on, not doing a lifesaver observation etc etc).

If you are under 21, even if you do all this you are not allowed any bike, you are restricted to 33bhp (400cc approx) and if you are older but do the test on a 125cc you are still restricted to 33bhp for 2 years. If you do the test on a 500cc bike at over 21 you can then ride any bike.

Its complicated and costs a lot of money to do but you do have a fair level of experience when you get your full license.

Wow thats intense!!! I took the MSF Class and was glad I did, it did open my eyes to the dangers of riding and made me more aware of what to look for. the funny part of it was their was this one girl in my class who dropped her bike 3 times and they passed her. Although she didnt drop it during the test, I dont believe she should have passed. I think because she was cute and she stated that she had a Ninja 600 already, they passed her.

 

[NoDoze]

Its complicated and costs a lot of money to do but you do have a fair level of experience when you get your full license.

I love it because in able to ride, you have to be really motivated and knowledgeable of what you are doing on two wheels. It will cost you time and money which gives you a sense of "it's a privilege and not a right."

Aside from the MSF, riding schools and DMV tests, all we have going for us are people paying the skills and knowledge forward. Then you have Darwin's Law - people who shouldn't be riding usually get filtered out but sometimes at the cost of others, tax payer's money, actuary science statistic tick and of course, their hospital bills and grief to their family.

It sucks I know, but it's up to us who have some form of knowledge to reach out to misled and misinformed riders even if they think we are ass hats trying to ruin their fun. However, those who turn things around become good riders and they in turn teach others... Just like this kid in our local area.

Sorry, I'll get off the soap box now.