ahaha! :thumbup:Where'd you find that pic of Robert from, he looks ticked off? :rof:
ahaha! :thumbup:Where'd you find that pic of Robert from, he looks ticked off? :rof:
:rof: :rof: :Im With Stupid: ha ha haWhere'd you find that pic of Robert from, he looks ticked off? :rof:
The ones we had did have some turn signal damage on some of them but they were newer and running good.No tank dents and stuff. Both the Ninja 350's had some fairing rash but not much. I really can't remember mirrors even on any of the bikes....I must be getting senile..drat!All the bikes in the MSF course I took looked really sad... Turning signals dented up. No mirrors. Dented tanks. Dings & scratched everywhere. LOL Ironically, I never dropped any of those bikes. But my 6R is a different story... lol. I think it's the difference in weight- ie 600cc vs 150cc & 250cc... =/
I learned last summer on a Suzuki Marauder. Low weight. Low centre of gravity. I did drop it once, on the initial parking lot training LOL. I even told the instructor I planned to drop his bike, cuz I never want to drop mine.All the bikes in the MSF course I took looked really sad... Turning signals dented up. No mirrors. Dented tanks. Dings & scratched everywhere. LOL Ironically, I never dropped any of those bikes. But my 6R is a different story... lol. I think it's the difference in weight- ie 600cc vs 150cc & 250cc... =/
There were many similar stories in the group of riders I took my MSF course with. 2 ladies in particular... 1 was bad, foot down here, dropped bike there, 900 feet to stop... similar to what you said.. and the other was just horrible. she failed her riding test in the morning session, so they let her take it in the afternoon session. She put her foot down countless times, and did everything wrong EXCEPT drop the bike and they passed her. It;s definitely scary to think that you can obtain a license that easily.I took mine and agree that it's a brilliant learning tool for those who actually learn the techniques taught. I always recommend people go take the class because it's their best chance to learn. The only problem I have with it is it's TOO easy to pass and get your license. My aunt and I took the class together. She was terrible! She put her foot down 4 times in the U-Turn box, blew past the emergency braking limit, basically got marked down on everything you could and missed the most points possible and she still passed. She was so bad that she dropped her Harley 883 Low sportster 4 times after the class. She was so terrified of leaning the bike that my uncle basically cut the back off the bike and turned it into a trike for her. And they passed her and said she was good enough to get her license. :eyebrow: That was kind of scary to me. It's no wonder there are so many bad riders out there. Teaching good technique doesn't do anything if you're going to pass people who didn't learn the good techniques you're trying to teach.
Since you're an instructor I'll ask you. What are the requirements to become an instructor? One of the guys we had seemed fine. But the other seemed like he was just reading off the little card and didn't really have much else. I know he rode because they both rode to the class. But he just never really offered anything beyond what was written down. If anyone had a question it was the other guy answering. He was always the one to explain the drill and the other guy always actually demo'd it. We never saw him actually do any of the drills he was trying to teach us how to do.I have been teaching the MSF curriculum for nearly 5 years (BRC, ERC-now BRC2 and the newer ARC - Advanced). Last weekend was my 111th class.
Thank you all for the kind reviews.
What most people miss (critics mostly) is that the BRC is a basic class. It is not intended to make someone an expert rider in 2 days. What it is for is to show how to practice properly. What the student does with that knowledge is up to them. If a person successfully completes the class are they better equipped to ride their motorcycle then before they started? By far, the answer is usually most definatly yes. Exceptions, sure (read about Jon Kerr's aunt). I wasn't there-don't know the specifics. But I can tell you that the training does far more good than not.
Of course, I am preaching to the choir - a big reason why I like this forum.
Anyone interested in organizing an MSF Advanced RiderCourse in Atlanta area - need 6 to make a class and I will arrange it
wow, sounds like an interesting class. I wasn't there and don't really know for sure what exactly went on but it sounds like you had somewhat of a new guy being mentored by an experienced guy. Just a guess, again I wasn't there.Since you're an instructor I'll ask you. What are the requirements to become an instructor? One of the guys we had seemed fine. But the other seemed like he was just reading off the little card and didn't really have much else. I know he rode because they both rode to the class. But he just never really offered anything beyond what was written down. If anyone had a question it was the other guy answering. He was always the one to explain the drill and the other guy always actually demo'd it. We never saw him actually do any of the drills he was trying to teach us how to do.
Also, do they have some leeway on their scoring? Like you read, they were very lenient with the scores in my class with pretty much everyone, not just my aunt. Even with me. The one thing I know I did wrong was my front tire just touched the line on the figure 8. But they still gave me 0 points.
Again- It might seem like I'm bitching about the class. And I really don't want it to seem like that. I really did learn a lot in the class and I think the content of it is great. I always recommend people take the class and take everything they can from it.