I just hit 4K and decided it's time to switch over to synthetic (Amsoil). I've been running OEM filters from day one, and I'm trying to decide if I should continue to do so or switch to something else now. I know better than to ask what filter is best, as I know those kind of questions can get pretty heated! So instead let me just ask what filer are you using, and have you been happy with it? Just to get an idea. Thanks
I use Purolator filters... on all my vehicles...
simple fact is the k&n with the nut on the end is more convenient in every facet. my wrench that i use for everything else works just fine on the k&n. i won't need to concern myself with any potential clearance or grip issues using oem style filter and filter wrench.
i'm a big advocate of options. mine is to use the one i like and you can use the one you like. not rocket surgery. :iconbeer:
xorbe
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Definitive thread:
http://www.600cc.org/forum/230250-post4.html
http://www.600cc.org/forum/f87/oil-filter-17743/
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Agree completely.Tried a wrench I had for my truck or car (don't remember which) and didn't have the clearance to use it. For the 6r you need a cap wrench which attaches to your wrench. I didn't feel like running out and buying one so I used a screwdriver to remove my stick one (way over tightened at factory). Since then it's been k&n. May grab a cap wrench though so I don't have to pay $10 a filter. Cap wrench makes it as easy as changing the k&n.
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alaskanflyboy
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I also use the K&N filters for ease of install and to avoid the paper elements of the OEM filters. The ability to safety wire the KN filter is also a plus.
Can someone correct me if my thinking is wrong. I would think the OEM filter is what is best for our bike, as it was designed specifically for our bike. Where as these other aftermarket filters were not. It looks like a lot of them are designed for cars.I do understand that Yamaha does not make the their own filters, but instead contracts them out. But I'm sure they set certain standards for the filter that need to be met by whom ever is manufacturing them, am I wrong?
Just as you could use the absolute cheapest engine oil in our bikes and still get over 100,000 miles on our FZ6R, you could use any one of dozens of oil filters and get acceptable performance.
All a filter does is filter out particles of a certain size or larger, and provide a particular flow rate. That's it. There may in fact be a measurable "best" out there, but in practice, there isn't much between filters. I've heard of a few really bad quality ones, but those are easy to avoid by reading a couple of reviews.
Consider the fact that a Honda Rebel doesn't even have an oil filter.
All a filter does is filter out particles of a certain size or larger, and provide a particular flow rate. That's it. There may in fact be a measurable "best" out there, but in practice, there isn't much between filters. I've heard of a few really bad quality ones, but those are easy to avoid by reading a couple of reviews.
Consider the fact that a Honda Rebel doesn't even have an oil filter.
Hmm.... I might have to eat my words. I'm Googling "oil filter difference" and getting interesting links. Lots of difference between materials and construction.
People seem to have strong opinions, although a lot of the criticism of certain filters seems theoretical.
Seems everyone thinks Fram filters are junk.
I'm going to stick with K&N for ease of use, and the fact that plenty of people on this forum use them and no one seems to have had a failure of any sort.
People seem to have strong opinions, although a lot of the criticism of certain filters seems theoretical.
Seems everyone thinks Fram filters are junk.
I'm going to stick with K&N for ease of use, and the fact that plenty of people on this forum use them and no one seems to have had a failure of any sort.
alaskanflyboy
Premium Member
Oil filters are typically not created for specific applications, but are instead selected for their shape and flow ratings. One filter model is used across many vehicles. In this case, Yamaha went with a Denso 115010-6370, which they've used on many of their vehicles. The only major difference in the Denso and the K&N is the filter media (paper and synthetic) and the relief valve setting (13 PSI and 14.5 PSI respectively).
I guess some of those differences are what I'm concerned about. Will using an aftermarket filter with a lower flow rate and/or higher relief valve setting eventually cause damage to the engine? I don't know, maybe, maybe not. I'm sure there are some aftermarket filters out there that are better than OEM, I'm just not sure which ones. I guess I'll just stick to OEM filter, for now. If nothing more than for piece of mind.
alaskanflyboy
Premium Member
You should be safe with most after market options. Yamaha's specs are for the bypass relief valve to open between 11.6–17.4PSI.
K&N 204 is a good filter. Ran those since taking the stock off. They are pricey, but if you don't change you oil 10 times a year it's not a problem. If you are putting massive miles I'd find a lower priced alternative that is still within specs, but otherwise the 204 is easier to change and performs well. I can usually find 204's for around $10.
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alaskanflyboy
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It's the same for most of the filters. You'll either have to ask the manufacture, or dig.