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Right to Video Tape Cops in Maryland is UNDER ATTACK! | Redwood Curtain CopWatch
"It is legal according to Maryland’s attorney general for cops to videotape citizens with dashcams but illegal for citizens to do the same."
uhmmmm, the police are above the law according to MD AG????
Wow, if I lived in MD, I would have already had letters out to my representatives about this.
Yes, so far, limited to MD, maybe a few other states, but MD is the one drawing attention now.
"It is legal according to Maryland’s attorney general for cops to videotape citizens with dashcams but illegal for citizens to do the same."
uhmmmm, the police are above the law according to MD AG????
Wow, if I lived in MD, I would have already had letters out to my representatives about this.
Yes, so far, limited to MD, maybe a few other states, but MD is the one drawing attention now.
I think if you see enough video of cops being shot from situations like this, pulling his gun isnt out of the question. This guy, besides giving all riders a bad name, was running from the cops. Marked cops. He knew the situation. At that point, you can expect that if another car, unmarked or not, is not just some random killer looking to shoot you. He knew what was going down, he way trying to get away in the 1st place. If I was in his shoes, I would have know the guy was law enforcement. Of course, I wouldnt have been in his shoes because you wouldnt catch me running from cops to begin with.
When someone runs, odd are its because they have a warrant out for some outstanding crime and are willing to risk life to get away. This class of person is high risk, because odd of them having a weapon and using it to continue to attempt escape from capture is high. Had he just pulled over at the start, I'm guessing he would have been issues a ticket for being moron and that would have been it.
Recording/not-recording? That's a whole bag of worms in each state (I work for a company that works in the area of law) and you just need to know the rules. But then, I don't even know our own state rules on this one! Best thing is, be open and honest with the police and you wont have an issues, unless you just finished riding a wheelie in front of him while you gave him the finger. Chances are, being nice and honest won't help you at that point!
When someone runs, odd are its because they have a warrant out for some outstanding crime and are willing to risk life to get away. This class of person is high risk, because odd of them having a weapon and using it to continue to attempt escape from capture is high. Had he just pulled over at the start, I'm guessing he would have been issues a ticket for being moron and that would have been it.
Recording/not-recording? That's a whole bag of worms in each state (I work for a company that works in the area of law) and you just need to know the rules. But then, I don't even know our own state rules on this one! Best thing is, be open and honest with the police and you wont have an issues, unless you just finished riding a wheelie in front of him while you gave him the finger. Chances are, being nice and honest won't help you at that point!
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Yellow09FZ6R
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I can agree 100% here. The clip doesnt show much, looks like the cop cut him off then rushed out with his firearm drawn. if that was me I would take that as a threat to my life and I wouldve defended myself. It looks like he didn't even attempt to identify himself as a police officer, I would've started swinging and asked questions later
That's why it's so important to show up for jury duty.
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np...this is the thread http://www.600cc.org/forum/f87/messed-up-19051/, but I didn't really want to hear ranting about this one again. :surrender:
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Scroll.
That's what I do to threads I'm not interested in reading.
This issue is a big deal. A real big deal. Not only an attempted violation of Constitutional protection of free speech, but also a major violation of personal privacy in raiding their home, not to mention that someone forgot to document that they pulled their weapon.
I've been keeping a close eye on this one, and I was quite pleased when I read last week that the wiretapping charge did not apply to this situation since the judge stated that the cop had no reasonable expectation of privacy in conducting a traffice stop in public.
Thanks for posting that article.
That's what I do to threads I'm not interested in reading.
This issue is a big deal. A real big deal. Not only an attempted violation of Constitutional protection of free speech, but also a major violation of personal privacy in raiding their home, not to mention that someone forgot to document that they pulled their weapon.
I've been keeping a close eye on this one, and I was quite pleased when I read last week that the wiretapping charge did not apply to this situation since the judge stated that the cop had no reasonable expectation of privacy in conducting a traffice stop in public.
Thanks for posting that article.
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arkkornkid
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I watched the video and here's my take:
ok, guy on bike starts backing up... couldn't tell the car was a cop, I'd have the same reaction. Cop pulls his gun because he thinks the bike is looking to escape.... NEVER points the gun at the rider, identifies himself as state police as he tells the rider to get off the bike. He "tucks" his gun once the bike has been shut off..... explain again: How is he an asshole? I am by no means a fan of cops, but even I couldn't find anything objectionable about what I just watched.
Now what happens after that point, the arrest, raid and crap about the legality of the video.... I concede are HUGE civil rights issues.
ok, guy on bike starts backing up... couldn't tell the car was a cop, I'd have the same reaction. Cop pulls his gun because he thinks the bike is looking to escape.... NEVER points the gun at the rider, identifies himself as state police as he tells the rider to get off the bike. He "tucks" his gun once the bike has been shut off..... explain again: How is he an asshole? I am by no means a fan of cops, but even I couldn't find anything objectionable about what I just watched.
Now what happens after that point, the arrest, raid and crap about the legality of the video.... I concede are HUGE civil rights issues.
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Here's why.
The kid's residence was raided, several computers were taken, and the kid was put in jail for over a day after the guy with the gun decided that he didn't like the fact that he was videotaped. Then the kid, a National Guardsman, was charged with illegal wiretapping. Ironically, his bail was set at more than the maximum penalty for the infraction.
This wasn't just about the overreaction of the man with the gun, it was about a GROSS violation of Constitutional Protection.
Never mind the fact that these events are taped routinely from dash-mounted cams placed specifically for that purpose in certain taxpayer-funded public safety vehicles, it's apparently not our privilege (they thought) to do the same.
As far as the raid on this kid's home? Gestapo. This is the same state which is on the news YET AGAIN for needless execution of a family pet. Seems as though they like to shoot dogs in Maryland. Even the mayor of Berwyn Hts got a little taste of one of these storm-trooper pet eradication manuevers that turned out to be improperly warranted and resulted in the mayor being interrogated in his underwear for hours...followed by no charges.
As it has been said, comparing this to LA, the person who taped the Rodney King beating would've been arrested.
We need to take measures to protect ourselves. Some who are sworn to do it are not always so inclined.
(The post to which I was responding was edited and removed). Sorry if this seemed misplaced.
The kid's residence was raided, several computers were taken, and the kid was put in jail for over a day after the guy with the gun decided that he didn't like the fact that he was videotaped. Then the kid, a National Guardsman, was charged with illegal wiretapping. Ironically, his bail was set at more than the maximum penalty for the infraction.
This wasn't just about the overreaction of the man with the gun, it was about a GROSS violation of Constitutional Protection.
Never mind the fact that these events are taped routinely from dash-mounted cams placed specifically for that purpose in certain taxpayer-funded public safety vehicles, it's apparently not our privilege (they thought) to do the same.
As far as the raid on this kid's home? Gestapo. This is the same state which is on the news YET AGAIN for needless execution of a family pet. Seems as though they like to shoot dogs in Maryland. Even the mayor of Berwyn Hts got a little taste of one of these storm-trooper pet eradication manuevers that turned out to be improperly warranted and resulted in the mayor being interrogated in his underwear for hours...followed by no charges.
As it has been said, comparing this to LA, the person who taped the Rodney King beating would've been arrested.
We need to take measures to protect ourselves. Some who are sworn to do it are not always so inclined.
(The post to which I was responding was edited and removed). Sorry if this seemed misplaced.
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arkkornkid
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I was just reacting to what that video shows, and I saw nothing wrong with what I saw.
But of course the rest of the story is just insane, and IMO this is why there should be no doubt that recording stuff like this should be the norm and not the exception. It'll eventually help to level the playing field. Believe me, if I'm ever in a similar situation the camera stays on.
I just hope the guy gets justice from all of this, whatever form that may take.
But of course the rest of the story is just insane, and IMO this is why there should be no doubt that recording stuff like this should be the norm and not the exception. It'll eventually help to level the playing field. Believe me, if I'm ever in a similar situation the camera stays on.
I just hope the guy gets justice from all of this, whatever form that may take.
I dont worry too much about this, because I wouldnt be running from cops, pullling wheelies on the freeway and driving like an ASS. Although I think all that took place after was in error and shouldnt have happened. I still would have thrown the rider in jail and beaten him with a cane stick for making the rest of us look like 'typical jerk sportbike riders'.
I was pulled over just this weekend, 75 in a 55 coming back from the coast. He wasnt happy with my speed or that I passed a car doing 65 to start with. However, that was the extent of my actions, I pulled over when the lights came on (actually, he pulled over my friend then hand signaled me to pull over too when I approached them at the side of the road). I pulled over (sure, I could have kept going and pretended I didnt see him signal and been fine). He talked to us, asked us to slow, ran our ID, sent us on our way.
I do my best to make sure I give all sport-bike riding people a good name not only with the police, but with fellow people in cars, Peds walking on the streets and riding their bikes. When I see a jack-ass do the stuff this guy did in the video, I just shake my head and know that people will see me as just one of 'them'.
Pisses me off.
I was pulled over just this weekend, 75 in a 55 coming back from the coast. He wasnt happy with my speed or that I passed a car doing 65 to start with. However, that was the extent of my actions, I pulled over when the lights came on (actually, he pulled over my friend then hand signaled me to pull over too when I approached them at the side of the road). I pulled over (sure, I could have kept going and pretended I didnt see him signal and been fine). He talked to us, asked us to slow, ran our ID, sent us on our way.
I do my best to make sure I give all sport-bike riding people a good name not only with the police, but with fellow people in cars, Peds walking on the streets and riding their bikes. When I see a jack-ass do the stuff this guy did in the video, I just shake my head and know that people will see me as just one of 'them'.
Pisses me off.