OMFG oil filter HELL!!!!!!!
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SkyOrDie
Do you know where these bikes are built? Have you ever wondered what sumo wrestlers do in the off season (besides eat)? I think you have the answer.
I popped the virgin oil filter off with an end cap tool; specifically, a KD Tools 3860. It has 14 sides and 65 and 67mm sections. I already had it for my wife's Subaru (why would they put an oil filter in a hole between the exhaust manifolds?). For the FZ6R you have to make sure it seats down on the 65mm section. It popped right off without damaging the filter. Of course, I had my long torque wrench on it and still had to grunt. If you need a rubber grip, you've got the wrong size filter wrench.
-Stan
I popped the virgin oil filter off with an end cap tool; specifically, a KD Tools 3860. It has 14 sides and 65 and 67mm sections. I already had it for my wife's Subaru (why would they put an oil filter in a hole between the exhaust manifolds?). For the FZ6R you have to make sure it seats down on the 65mm section. It popped right off without damaging the filter. Of course, I had my long torque wrench on it and still had to grunt. If you need a rubber grip, you've got the wrong size filter wrench.
-Stan
Ya we used a torque wrench with an extention, this was the SMALLEST filter we could find, i dont think they come any smaller, and it just wouldnt grip it was ridiculousDo you know where these bikes are built? Have you ever wondered what sumo wrestlers do in the off season (besides eat)? I think you have the answer.
I popped the virgin oil filter off with an end cap tool; specifically, a KD Tools 3860. It has 14 sides and 65 and 67mm sections. I already had it for my wife's Subaru (why would they put an oil filter in a hole between the exhaust manifolds?). For the FZ6R you have to make sure it seats down on the 65mm section. It popped right off without damaging the filter. Of course, I had my long torque wrench on it and still had to grunt. If you need a rubber grip, you've got the wrong size filter wrench.
-Stan
this is the one we used
Walmart.com: Imperial Oil Filter Wrench: Automotive
but oh well lol we all get to live and learn, I am going to film the oil change next time for proof that its easier the second time around!!!
I think Yamaha puts the first filter on with glue, or over-tightens it just to make sure it's not going to leak on the showroom floor. After the first filter it should be pretty easy with a wrench or strap.
FYI, a oil filter should ONLY BE PUT ON BY HAND and not with a wrench of any kind! Lube the threads and gasket with fresh oil and then put it on by hand.
I know we are only talking about taking them off, but I wanted to make for those folks that haven't done it, or at least correctly, were aware of that.
FYI, a oil filter should ONLY BE PUT ON BY HAND and not with a wrench of any kind! Lube the threads and gasket with fresh oil and then put it on by hand.
I know we are only talking about taking them off, but I wanted to make for those folks that haven't done it, or at least correctly, were aware of that.
Are you sure about that? The Yamaha Owner's Manual specifies 12ft-lbs. of torque for the oil filter -- that's seriously tighter than by hand...I think Yamaha puts the first filter on with glue, or over-tightens it just to make sure it's not going to leak on the showroom floor. After the first filter it should be pretty easy with a wrench or strap.
FYI, a oil filter should ONLY BE PUT ON BY HAND and not with a wrench of any kind! Lube the threads and gasket with fresh oil and then put it on by hand.
I know we are only talking about taking them off, but I wanted to make for those folks that haven't done it, or at least correctly, were aware of that.
I torqued mine because I have several snap on torque wrenches. Depending on your grip it wouldnt be hard to get 12 ft lbs. I doubt anyones hand in calibrated. With the oil filter that close to the rear tire I'm not taking any chances. I'm curiuos to see how this one comes off.Are you sure about that? The Yamaha Owner's Manual specifies 12ft-lbs. of torque for the oil filter -- that's seriously tighter than by hand...
I use K&N filters. They're smart enough to have a 17mm nut welded onto to the top of the filter, so removing and installing is cake... Also makes it easier for the torque wrench, so I use it.I torqued mine because I have several snap on torque wrenches. Depending on your grip it wouldnt be hard to get 12 ft lbs. I doubt anyones hand in calibrated. With the oil filter that close to the rear tire I'm not taking any chances. I'm curiuos to see how this one comes off.
I agree about the grip, however, getting your hand inside there is no easy task, much less getting the leverage to apply enough hand torque to feel comfortable it's tight enough...
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SkyOrDie
It's the same thing- a 65/67mm. It's just too easy to be mistakenly on the 67mm section. It seems reasonably snug and will catch the edges of the flutes making you think it's right. It takes an extra wiggle and push to force it to the 65mm section. There is no way you could get the rubber gripper stuff between the filter and the 65mm section of the wrench.Ya we used a torque wrench with an extention, this was the SMALLEST filter we could find, i dont think they come any smaller, and it just wouldnt grip it was ridiculous
this is the one we used
Walmart.com: Imperial Oil Filter Wrench: Automotive
but oh well lol we all get to live and learn, I am going to film the oil change next time for proof that its easier the second time around!!!
-Stan
I think he's referring to if you have a robocop body. I would never leave it to chance and hope your hand does the job. There are other things your hand does well :jerk:.... being the final tighten on any type of threaded metal is not one of them imo. To each their own though... :thumbup:Are you sure about that? The Yamaha Owner's Manual specifies 12ft-lbs. of torque for the oil filter -- that's seriously tighter than by hand...
So on my last oil change I did not change the filter.. I am going with the 8k spread like the manual says and kinda along the lines of what JonKerr posted about filters previously. I am now about 3-4 weeks from my next oil change and will change it then.. I am going between the Purolator (good but cheap) that Nastybutler recommends and then the K&N for the nut at the end..It's the same thing- a 65/67mm. It's just too easy to be mistakenly on the 67mm section. It seems reasonably snug and will catch the edges of the flutes making you think it's right. It takes an extra wiggle and push to force it to the 65mm section. There is no way you could get the rubber gripper stuff between the filter and the 65mm section of the wrench.
-Stan
I am thinking of getting one of those wrenches like the 65/67. But I saw that my local store actually has a 65 only model also.. Wouldnt that be the one to get instead of this multi model, thus reducing this extra work of making sure you have it in the right section?
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That would solve that problem. But if you ever have a vehicle that uses a 67 sized filter, you can't use it. Probably a lesser concern than the alternative. I've got a 65/67 cap wrench thingy and I've never had an issue.I am thinking of getting one of those wrenches like the 65/67. But I saw that my local store actually has a 65 only model also.. Wouldnt that be the one to get instead of this multi model, thus reducing this extra work of making sure you have it in the right section?
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Interesting (to me) side note, I bought it originally to take the tiny filter off my wife's Acura which all my other filter wrenches were too big for. Then I got my 6R and when I went to do the first oil change and bought the filter I thought it looked awefully similar to the one that fit my wife's car. Turns out, they both use the exact same filter! And my Triumph uses the same filter too. So I need to just buy a case of those Purolator PureOne filters and never worry about that again, ha ha.
Three weeks between oil changes? How many miles are you putting on there?On my last oil change 2 weeks ago. I got so pissed off at the oil filter that I LEFT IT ON THERE!... and just changed the oil telling myself that i'll try again on the next oil change this weekend lol.
Lol!!Had to use the hammer and big-ass screw driver to get mine off the first time. I had to be careful not to just rip the filter to shreds, but it worked. Then I went and put a Fram on. Doh!
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I bought a very cheap oil filter cap wrench from autozone. The smallest they had was a 2.5", and I believe our filters are 2 1/4 inch. Was only a few bucks i believe. It was slipping so I just put a sheet of printer paper folded around the filter first, then the wrench on top of that and got it off without problems.
65/67 and just make sure you put it on the 65 size of a oil filter cap wrench and the filter comes off so easily you will be amazed. With discounts buying some things, I basically got my next kn204 free, but after that I'm going back to purolator since very good and cheaper. Make use of the cap I purchased then too.
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I'm surprised so many had a problem. It's really easy to get the filter off if you use an adjustable wrench and squeeze down until the outer edge of the filter crushes a little bit, then start turning. Gotta have some good muscle in it, but turn slowly at the same time, this way the filter won't tear as you twist.