Okay so here is the deal, there are TONS of threads of different questions about which oil this, which oil that. Well I am going to clarify and clean this subject up as best as possible by providing every bit of factual information our there, which will allow YOU to make the best educated descision on which product you wish to run in your Fizzer. This is going to be completely unbiased and run through every Major oil brand which most use. I will give all of their positive findings and their claims, along with any negatives that I can find. This will be a progressive thread so bare with me as I provide the information.
Lets start this off with Yamalube, they have three types of oil. Conventional, Synthetic blend, and complete synthetic. Well Yamaha, contrary to popular belief, doesnt produce their own oils. This product is actually made by Torco-USA in collaboration with CITGO. When you purchase Yamalube oil you are getting a grade of oil that was race designed and engineered for the track.
Yamalube conventional:
Torco T-4 oil: T-4 is a highly refined petroleum blend lubricant designed specifically for motorcycle and ATV engines. It utilizes an exclusive blend of additives and polymer systems that resist high shock loads, high temperatures, shearing and eliminates deposits.
Benefits:
- Premium grade petroleum formula
- Excellent thermal and shear stability
- Non-friction modified formula
- Provides smooth, positive clutch activation
- Excellent anti-wear and deposit free performance
Torco-USA cost:
T-4 20w50
$8.00 per 1 Quart bottle(Yamaha Charges $9.49 per QT here)
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The Semi-Synth Blend
Torco T-4R 4-Stroke Motor Oil is a blend of specially selected synthetic and petroleum base oils designed for high output and high temperature motorcycle engines. Provides smooth, positive clutch engagement, maximum engine protection and extreme pressure protection for integrated transmissions.
Benefits:
- Synthetic blend technology
- Non-friction modified formula
- Improves ring seal
- Provides smooth, positive clutch activation
- Superior anti-wear and deposit free performance
Torco-USA cost:
T-4r 20w50
$11.85 per 1 Quart bottle(Yamaha Charges 12.50 per Qt here)
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Fully Synthetic:
T-4SR is a 100% synthetic oil designed for highly stressed 4-stroke racing engines. T-4SR offers the ultimate in viscosity control, anti-friction, anti-wear and improved power output. It is formulated to reduce engine temperatures and provide the highest degree of protection under the most severe temperature and load conditions. A selective additive system and polymer chemistry also provides anti-oxidation, anti-foam, anti-rust and consistent clutch engagement for motorcycles with integrated transmissions. T-4SR offers the best protection for engines running at consistently high RPM, high temperatures and under extreme loads or endurance type conditions.
Benfits:
- 100% advanced synthetic technology
- Non-friction modified formula
- Formulated for wet clutches
- Protects under the most severe temperatures
- Provides smooth, positive clutch activation
- Highest anti-wear and deposit free performance
Torco-Usa Cost:
T-4sr 20w50
$16.65 per 1Quart bottle(Yamaha Charges $17.86 Per Qt Here)
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Torco Does NOT provide In depth Spec sheets on their product line
PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
AMSOIL Synthetic 20W-50 Motorcycle Oil (MCV) is a premium oil designed for those who demand the absolute best lubrication for their motorcycles. AMSOIL MCV is the result of extensive research, and it is specially formulated to excel in all areas unique to motorcycles, including high temperatures of air-cooled engines such as Harley Davidson® V-Twin, wet clutch lubrication, extreme pressure regions of gears and chains and rust common to short trips and storage.
AMSOIL MCV is multi-functional and fulfills the requirements of both domestic and foreign motorcycles. It outperforms other conventional and synthetic motorcycle oil.
AMSOIL, the leader in synthetic lubrication, produced the world’s first API qualified synthetic motor oil in 1972. Trust the extensive experience of AMSOIL The First in Synthetics® to do the best job protecting your motorcycle.
Reduces Friction, Heat and Wear
In high heat conditions, engine protection is not sacrificed with AMSOIL Synthetic Motorcycle Oil. It has exceptional high-temperature film strength and contains a heavy treatment of anti-wear additives to reduce wear regardless of the
operating conditions.
AMSOIL 20W-50 Motorcycle Oil is thermally (heat) stable and contains maximum levels of oxidation inhibitor additives. It is extremely resistant to breakdown and engineered to prevent damaging sludge and
carbon deposits for superior engine cleanliness.
Provides Extreme Pressure Quality Protection for Gears and ChainsWith AMSOIL MCV, there is no need for separate transmission or primary chaincase lubricants. It is absolutely shear stable and will not thin out from mechanical activity. AMSOIL MCV performs like a gear lube without the negative effects of extreme pressure additives. In the FZG gear test, AMSOIL MCV achieved a perfect score with a “zero” wear rating (see photo below).
Pass Example: AMSOIL MCV
Passed Stage 13, Total Wear 0 mm
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Failure Example: Lucas High Performance
Passed Stage 11, Failed Stage 12,
Total Wear in Stage 12, 160 mm
View attachment 21296
Delivers Superior Rust Protection
Motorcycles are prone to rust from storage, humidity and short drives. Rust can cause major damage such as roller bearing failure, uncontrolled wear, compression loss and blow-by. Good rust protection, however, comes by design and is not natural to engine oils. Unlike many motorcycle oils, AMSOIL MCV contains special anti-rust agents. It passes the ASTM D-1748 humidity cabinet rust test and clearly demonstrates superior rust protection (see photos below).
Pass Example:
AMSOIL MCV
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Fail Example:
Castrol V-Twin
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Provides Excellent Wet Clutch PerformanceAMSOIL MCV contains no friction modifiers and promotes smooth shifting and positive clutch engagement. AMSOIL MCV controls heat and prevents slippage and glazing, and its high TBN resists acids that can degrade clutch material, helping improve clutch life.
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APPLICATIONS
AMSOIL Synthetic 20W-50 Motorcycle Oil is recommended for air or liquid cooled 4-stroke engines. It meets SAE 90, API GL-1 gear oil requirements and is recommended for transmissions and primary chaincases. AMSOIL MCV is recommended for Harley Davidson®, YAMAHA®, KTM, Ducati®, Aprilia®, BMW®, Triumph® and other motorcycles where 15W-50 or 20W-50 engine oils or SAE 90, GL-1 gear oils are used.
MIXING AMSOIL
AMSOIL Synthetic 20W-50 Motorcycle Oil is compatible with conventional and synthetic motor oils; however, mixing oils may shorten the oil life expectancy and reduce the performance benefits. AMSOIL does not support extended drain intervals where oils have been mixed.
Aftermarket oil additives are not recommended for use with AMSOIL motorcycle oil.
SERVICE LIFE
Recommended for use up to twice the motorcycle manufacturer change interval (miles/hours) or one year, whichever comes first, in engines, transmissions and primary chaincases. For Big Twin Harley-Davidson transmissions only, follow the Harley-Davidson recommended drain interval for synthetic oil of up to 20,000 miles or one year, whichever comes first. When using an engine filter other than AMSOIL Ea, change the filter at standard intervals.
AMSOIL SPEC SHEET AND FULL COMPARISON
Synthetic SAE 20W-50
Proven to cool and quiet engines and gear boxes. Use in ALL air-cooled and water-cooled 4-stroke Engine, Primaries, and Transmissions that call for SAE 20W-50 motor oil.
Key Benefits
•Lower oil temperatures
•Longer oil life
•Longer component life
•Less noise, fewer leaks
•Meets or exceeds: API SG / SF / CC / CD, JASO MA & JASO MA-2, ACEA A3
Lucas 20-50w 1 QT oil
$13.54-16.69 Each Depending on Where its purchased
ON A SIDE NOTE: TROY LEE DESIGNS MAKES THEIR PRODUCT LABELING!
troy lee designs product page
LUCAS OIL 20-50W SPEC SHEET PDF
OUR BIKE PER YAMAHA SPEC TAKES 2.9 QUARTS EXACT
Lets start this off with Yamalube, they have three types of oil. Conventional, Synthetic blend, and complete synthetic. Well Yamaha, contrary to popular belief, doesnt produce their own oils. This product is actually made by Torco-USA in collaboration with CITGO. When you purchase Yamalube oil you are getting a grade of oil that was race designed and engineered for the track.
Yamalube conventional:
Torco T-4 oil: T-4 is a highly refined petroleum blend lubricant designed specifically for motorcycle and ATV engines. It utilizes an exclusive blend of additives and polymer systems that resist high shock loads, high temperatures, shearing and eliminates deposits.
Benefits:
- Premium grade petroleum formula
- Excellent thermal and shear stability
- Non-friction modified formula
- Provides smooth, positive clutch activation
- Excellent anti-wear and deposit free performance
Torco-USA cost:
T-4 20w50
$8.00 per 1 Quart bottle(Yamaha Charges $9.49 per QT here)
View attachment 21292
The Semi-Synth Blend
Torco T-4R 4-Stroke Motor Oil is a blend of specially selected synthetic and petroleum base oils designed for high output and high temperature motorcycle engines. Provides smooth, positive clutch engagement, maximum engine protection and extreme pressure protection for integrated transmissions.
Benefits:
- Synthetic blend technology
- Non-friction modified formula
- Improves ring seal
- Provides smooth, positive clutch activation
- Superior anti-wear and deposit free performance
Torco-USA cost:
T-4r 20w50
$11.85 per 1 Quart bottle(Yamaha Charges 12.50 per Qt here)
View attachment 21293
Fully Synthetic:
T-4SR is a 100% synthetic oil designed for highly stressed 4-stroke racing engines. T-4SR offers the ultimate in viscosity control, anti-friction, anti-wear and improved power output. It is formulated to reduce engine temperatures and provide the highest degree of protection under the most severe temperature and load conditions. A selective additive system and polymer chemistry also provides anti-oxidation, anti-foam, anti-rust and consistent clutch engagement for motorcycles with integrated transmissions. T-4SR offers the best protection for engines running at consistently high RPM, high temperatures and under extreme loads or endurance type conditions.
Benfits:
- 100% advanced synthetic technology
- Non-friction modified formula
- Formulated for wet clutches
- Protects under the most severe temperatures
- Provides smooth, positive clutch activation
- Highest anti-wear and deposit free performance
Torco-Usa Cost:
T-4sr 20w50
$16.65 per 1Quart bottle(Yamaha Charges $17.86 Per Qt Here)
View attachment 21294
Torco Does NOT provide In depth Spec sheets on their product line
Amsoil 20-50W
PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
AMSOIL Synthetic 20W-50 Motorcycle Oil (MCV) is a premium oil designed for those who demand the absolute best lubrication for their motorcycles. AMSOIL MCV is the result of extensive research, and it is specially formulated to excel in all areas unique to motorcycles, including high temperatures of air-cooled engines such as Harley Davidson® V-Twin, wet clutch lubrication, extreme pressure regions of gears and chains and rust common to short trips and storage.
AMSOIL MCV is multi-functional and fulfills the requirements of both domestic and foreign motorcycles. It outperforms other conventional and synthetic motorcycle oil.
AMSOIL, the leader in synthetic lubrication, produced the world’s first API qualified synthetic motor oil in 1972. Trust the extensive experience of AMSOIL The First in Synthetics® to do the best job protecting your motorcycle.
Reduces Friction, Heat and Wear
In high heat conditions, engine protection is not sacrificed with AMSOIL Synthetic Motorcycle Oil. It has exceptional high-temperature film strength and contains a heavy treatment of anti-wear additives to reduce wear regardless of the
operating conditions.
AMSOIL 20W-50 Motorcycle Oil is thermally (heat) stable and contains maximum levels of oxidation inhibitor additives. It is extremely resistant to breakdown and engineered to prevent damaging sludge and
carbon deposits for superior engine cleanliness.
Provides Extreme Pressure Quality Protection for Gears and ChainsWith AMSOIL MCV, there is no need for separate transmission or primary chaincase lubricants. It is absolutely shear stable and will not thin out from mechanical activity. AMSOIL MCV performs like a gear lube without the negative effects of extreme pressure additives. In the FZG gear test, AMSOIL MCV achieved a perfect score with a “zero” wear rating (see photo below).
Pass Example: AMSOIL MCV
Passed Stage 13, Total Wear 0 mm
View attachment 21295
Failure Example: Lucas High Performance
Passed Stage 11, Failed Stage 12,
Total Wear in Stage 12, 160 mm
View attachment 21296
Delivers Superior Rust Protection
Motorcycles are prone to rust from storage, humidity and short drives. Rust can cause major damage such as roller bearing failure, uncontrolled wear, compression loss and blow-by. Good rust protection, however, comes by design and is not natural to engine oils. Unlike many motorcycle oils, AMSOIL MCV contains special anti-rust agents. It passes the ASTM D-1748 humidity cabinet rust test and clearly demonstrates superior rust protection (see photos below).
Pass Example:
AMSOIL MCV
View attachment 21297
View attachment 21298
Fail Example:
Castrol V-Twin
View attachment 21299
View attachment 21300
Provides Excellent Wet Clutch PerformanceAMSOIL MCV contains no friction modifiers and promotes smooth shifting and positive clutch engagement. AMSOIL MCV controls heat and prevents slippage and glazing, and its high TBN resists acids that can degrade clutch material, helping improve clutch life.
View attachment 21301
APPLICATIONS
AMSOIL Synthetic 20W-50 Motorcycle Oil is recommended for air or liquid cooled 4-stroke engines. It meets SAE 90, API GL-1 gear oil requirements and is recommended for transmissions and primary chaincases. AMSOIL MCV is recommended for Harley Davidson®, YAMAHA®, KTM, Ducati®, Aprilia®, BMW®, Triumph® and other motorcycles where 15W-50 or 20W-50 engine oils or SAE 90, GL-1 gear oils are used.
MIXING AMSOIL
AMSOIL Synthetic 20W-50 Motorcycle Oil is compatible with conventional and synthetic motor oils; however, mixing oils may shorten the oil life expectancy and reduce the performance benefits. AMSOIL does not support extended drain intervals where oils have been mixed.
Aftermarket oil additives are not recommended for use with AMSOIL motorcycle oil.
SERVICE LIFE
Recommended for use up to twice the motorcycle manufacturer change interval (miles/hours) or one year, whichever comes first, in engines, transmissions and primary chaincases. For Big Twin Harley-Davidson transmissions only, follow the Harley-Davidson recommended drain interval for synthetic oil of up to 20,000 miles or one year, whichever comes first. When using an engine filter other than AMSOIL Ea, change the filter at standard intervals.
AMSOIL SPEC SHEET AND FULL COMPARISON
Lucas High Performance Motorcycle Oils
Lucas High Performance Motorcycle Oils are the result of technology gained through years of blending motor oils and gear oils for the racing industry. These are TRUE racing oils that FAR exceed all manufacturer specifications and can outlast other oils up to 4 times on the track or on the street.Synthetic SAE 20W-50
Proven to cool and quiet engines and gear boxes. Use in ALL air-cooled and water-cooled 4-stroke Engine, Primaries, and Transmissions that call for SAE 20W-50 motor oil.
Key Benefits
•Lower oil temperatures
•Longer oil life
•Longer component life
•Less noise, fewer leaks
•Meets or exceeds: API SG / SF / CC / CD, JASO MA & JASO MA-2, ACEA A3
Lucas 20-50w 1 QT oil
$13.54-16.69 Each Depending on Where its purchased
ON A SIDE NOTE: TROY LEE DESIGNS MAKES THEIR PRODUCT LABELING!
troy lee designs product page
LUCAS OIL 20-50W SPEC SHEET PDF
"Testimonial"
Kevin Mckay uses Lucas High Performance Motorcycle Oils in 2000 Harley Softtail
Just going to let you know That I have a 2000 Harley softtail and love the 20-50 oil for bikes. Me and My wife love to take long road trips and now I dont have to stop and have service done every 2500 miles. We have 125,000 on her and she ant see any other oil but Lucas. And the Harley Dealership in Dallas,tx cant Believe the miles. I am going for 200,000 we use the 20-50 in all 3 oil cavities . just wanted to say : THANKS FOR THE OIL .
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