derestrict lams bike question

[seanos fz6r]

Many thanks to all for your info on throttle issue guys. i have ordered the replacement part but I'm nervous about what might happen at service time. My service guy was all legal jargon when I asked him about. I live in western Sydney, if anyone knows of any dealers with a different attitude please let me know

 

[kma_jg]

Will that part fit on the XJ6 as well, do you have a link please?
One dealer I asked once said "it can be derestricted, but I won't recommend it". Wonder why...can't see that you could have any warrenty issues, 'cause you can buy unrestricted models

 

[seanos fz6r]

hi there, I didn't think the xj6s was restricted, maybe it is. There are some pretty good reasons to consider not derestricting Lams bikes. Its illegal, basically the bike rego, and insurance are legally void (don't think it would apply to warranty though), if you are caught. In my case I thought I could derestrict my fz6r once off P's.. not the case. I decided to go ahead and enjoy the bike with the full power, and fingers crossed.

Check your bike is Lams, if not it has 78hp

Here is the link if you decide you want it resart.com.au/fz6r-xj6f-derestricted-.html

 

[Marthy]

If it's like here in America, they might not give a $hit... Here if you go to the muffler shop with your car and told them to remove the cat or do a custom exhaust on your car they have the same attitude. They just don't want to get in trouble with the law doing illegal stuff. But if you do it yourself and show up with it to get and oil change, unless the bike shop manager is a law enforcement freak you should be all right.

Just take it this way... if you're going 140k in a 100k zone, do you pass on a double yellow line? why not? What is the worst, going 40 over or passing the double line? Same on your bike. What's worst, changing your cable or installing a custom exhaust by example? Just do it and enjoy the extra HP!

 

[seanos fz6r]

Yeah thanks for that, seriously you make good sense. In sydney, where I live, the laws are getting very tough, but we ride motorcycles to enjoy them

 

[dart1963]

if I lived down there, I'd be fighting these laws (as in working to get them repealed)... I just checked them out.... while the intention is good, it's not up to the government to force you to be safe, what's next down there, you can't walk until you've crawled for at least four years? (was looking at all the restrictions they put on car licenses as well, ).

bad news is, it looks like if you are forced to ride a LAM bike... and you modify it such that it no longer meets the requirements of LAM , the insurance companies automatically get a free pass to not pay out any damages, while you are still liable.... so if you guys go down this path, there are consequences.

for anyone else's reading pleasure (or disgust)
Approved motorcycles for novice riders

 

[Marthy]

if I lived down there, I'd be fighting these laws (as in working to get them repealed)... I just checked them out.... while the intention is good, it's not up to the government to force you to be safe, what's next down there, you can't walk until you've crawled for at least four years? (was looking at all the restrictions they put on car licenses as well, ).

bad news is, it looks like if you are forced to ride a LAM bike... and you modify it such that it no longer meets the requirements of LAM , the insurance companies automatically get a free pass to not pay out any damages, while you are still liable.... so if you guys go down this path, there are consequences.

for anyone else's reading pleasure (or disgust)
Approved motorcycles for novice riders

I agree with you. This is a good thing to have those kind of laws. Too many inexperience driver goes and buy a liter bike just because they can afford it. I was watching the news few month ago. There that 17 y.o. kid in a wheel chair driving around with a pop cycle in is mouth. The story goes that Daddy got him a C6 Vette for is birthday and bought him some track time at Palm Beach International Raceway so he can rip some lap without getting in too much trouble. The kid when out there, lost it and crash. Then Daddy blame the track safely and the whole tra-la-la... He had to quit is job to take care of his kid 24/7 because the poor kid can't even wipe his own ass. I wish I can meet that idiot one day and told him that he kill his kid the day he bought him a 160 MPH car. WTF he was thinking???

So I think setting standard for bike is great. But I wish this standard can apply for all vehicle. Restrictive driver license is not a bad thing, it give you time to learn in a safer way...

 

[catweasel]

Try Red Baron Motorcycles in Liverpool, they have a good attitude toward the derestrict. I'd say it'd be best not to bring it up and just let them service the bike.
They were also the cheapest when it came to the first 1000km service.
Mine was done at $220 after I heard from a friend who got his XJ6 done there. Everyone else was quoting $360

The part can be ordered at resart.com.au

Its a pretty easy mod to do yourself ...you'll just need the tools in your kit plus a T25 torx driver

 

[catweasel]

I also keep the old part in my tool bag for a quick change over if need be!!!!

 

[Roaddawg]

I agree with you. This is a good thing to have those kind of laws. Too many inexperience driver goes and buy a liter bike just because they can afford it. I was watching the news few month ago. There that 17 y.o. kid in a wheel chair driving around with a pop cycle in is mouth. The story goes that Daddy got him a C6 Vette for is birthday and bought him some track time at Palm Beach International Raceway so he can rip some lap without getting in too much trouble. The kid when out there, lost it and crash. Then Daddy blame the track safely and the whole tra-la-la... He had to quit is job to take care of his kid 24/7 because the poor kid can't even wipe his own ass. I wish I can meet that idiot one day and told him that he kill his kid the day he bought him a 160 MPH car. WTF he was thinking???

So I think setting standard for bike is great. But I wish this standard can apply for all vehicle. Restrictive driver license is not a bad thing, it give you time to learn in a safer way...

I believe Dart did not agree with the laws..."if I lived down there, I'd be fighting these laws (as in working to get them repealed)..." A lot of people in the States complain about our laws, but look how restrictive this LAMS law is! I guess the ol' motorcycle slogan "Freedom to Ride" doesn't really apply there.

I'd say, if you mod it, make sure you can convert it back easily enough for inspections. If you get caught with a modified LAMS bike, is it a "fix-it" ticket or is the bike put out-of-service for life?

 

[dart1963]

^^^ :wav: ^^^ (ah, crap, made it to a new page... this is for dawg catching this)

like I said, intention is good, but we are adults, we have to live with the decisions we make.

I agree with ya Marthy on the Dad buying his kid a 'vette... a complete dumb@$$... we've seen it around here before, that's why there were laws put in place to protect kids (see... KIDS) from other kids, but even those laws didn't go as far as the LAM laws or other license laws do, some of those are in effect 'till you hit 25 years old (see the link I put up).

I wonder... and you OZ guys can chime in... with these very restrictive laws in place, do the insurance rates reflect a fair rate no matter your age/gender/marital status? I always felt bent over just because I am a male and (well, a long time ago) was under 25 and single... had nothing to do with my "record", only industry that is allowed to discriminate based on age/gender/marital status.

 

[catweasel]

I don't believe the Police could keep up with which bike is Learner legal or not.
Firstly there are many old bikes and those at 250cc that are allowed but some 250's are not because of power to weight ratio.
Then you have the feast of 600cc -650cc that are restricted in some way.
The restriction can be as easy to pick as a throttle that only moves an inch (like the FZ6R) or it could be a computer restriction to the airflow when it hits a certain rev range, like the Suzuki's.
The Police wouldnt know...it would be more an insurance assessor picking it after a bingle.....thats why I keep my part with me...easy change ..no foul.

 

[seanos fz6r]

It's clear from what people are saying riders do want to take responsibility for their own safety. The lams laws are a good thing but, the application is flawed. Bike owners should be allowed to restore the bikes to full power once on a full licence. Common sense to us, not for governments :rant:

Regarding the throttle restriction, I now have the part, is it just a matter of unscrewing two bolts and removing the old part and replacing it with the new. Or do the cables have to be removed and replaced, thanks heaps

 

[catweasel]

only the part need changing..the cables just slip back in

 

[kma_jg]

Got my part today. I must say that the finishing of this piece of metal is not very good. It still has metal shavings on the sides and the plastic protection layer on the stainless steel shows evidence how it was melted during the manufacturing process.

It looks like something that was made in a shed over a weekend. For a $150, I think it could have been done better and they could have included some installation instructions as well.

I hope this thing fits.

 

[seanos fz6r]

only the part need changing..the cables just slip back in

Hi catweasel, I've had the cowlings off and looked at the offending bracket

To fit the new bracket do I loosen the cable nuts on the old bracket, or the one on the handlebar, or both?

I want to make sure I get this right. Any thoughts would be appreciated :thumbup:

 

[catweasel]

Hi Seanos
I didnt go near the handlebars....just loosened the nuts at the end of the cable on the old part and slid the new one in then tightened..there was a little bit of difference in the final position of the nut on the thread but as long as you have the same sort of tension on the cable as when you started then all should be fine

 

[Jonesay]

yea, de restriction part is on the way, n have a verry understanding dealer, who offered to take care of it, until i told him its ok the part is already on its way...

now just debating the two bros exhaust...
Loud pipes save lives

 

[Drewsfz6r]

yea, de restriction part is on the way, n have a verry understanding dealer, who offered to take care of it, until i told him its ok the part is already on its way...

now just debating the two bros exhaust...
Loud pipes save lives

I got two brothers pipes shipped from the US $1300 shipped to my door with a juice box as well and here in aust they told me 1600 just for the pipe alone... But it's money well spent I love the sound of it now... It sounds like a much bigger bike now and everyone can hear me coming and very easy to install I done it myself in a couple of hours

 

[kma_jg]

I got two brothers pipes shipped from the US $1300 shipped to my door with a juice box as well and here in aust they told me 1600 just for the pipe alone... But it's money well spent I love the sound of it now... It sounds like a much bigger bike now and everyone can hear me coming and very easy to install I done it myself in a couple of hours

:needpics:

D'you reckon there would be an increase in performance or is just for the sound you got it?