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Yes... I worked for a company that paid a photographer for some pictures that were used in a brochure. I ran into a problem when I wanted to utilize some of the pics on the company's web-site. The photographer told me I couldn't without paying him a second time for the pics, because the original agreement had some clause about using them only for our brochure. I was quite angry because the company paid him quite a bit for the pictures.
Long story... short, I ended up using my own digital camera to take pics for our web-site and told the photographer, who wanted a second check, to pound sand.
Years ago (I'm talking film camera days) I did some photography for my cousins race team. I was a pit guy but would take my camera up to the spotters booth during test sessions. There was a track photographer who sold pics to the drivers so they could buy a bunch of them, sign them and give them to the kids coming through the pits. I took better pics and had a ton printed and we were giving them away. He flipped. Tried to get the track promoter to kick us out lol. That was his territory.
Yeah, it seems most (not all) professional photogs are snobs who view "amatures" with disdain and see the advance of modern photography as a threat to their way of life. Which it may be, but you can either tilt at windmills or adapt and thrive. The way carriage makers at the turn of the last century either adapted to horseless carriages or they went out of business. That's the way progress works. Adapt or die.
While it is polite to ask the photographer's permission for our T-shirts, since Jay basically redid them he'd have a "fair use" defense if it came down to it since Jay can easily show that he basically transformed the picture into an entirely different picture and for a different purpose. (Look at Shepard Fairey, the guy who did the Obama "Hope" poster, as an example of someone taken to court over a transformed picture used without prior permission. He should have had a slam dunk defense, but he was caught destroying evidence for no good reason, then lied about it.
) It's never fun to have to go to court though, so kudos to the generous nature of the photographer.
YamahaMAXdRPMs
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As I do photography for a side business I can understand where photographers come from. I only do it for fun-money, so I don't know what it truly means to rely in it, but if I took photos for a living I would be a little annoyed too. Imagine your a sales man, if every time you tried a sales pitch to a customer someone came up and offered it cheaper. It would drive ya nuts you live off that sale then someone yanks it from ya. Lol
Same with selling photos. Photographers sell photos for a purpose. If you want a pic for your mantle that's one thing, if you want it to advertise your company, that's another
Same with selling photos. Photographers sell photos for a purpose. If you want a pic for your mantle that's one thing, if you want it to advertise your company, that's another
I agree. They need to make their money. The funny thing was that the track photographer was terrible! lol My uncle (who owned the team) told him so and told him if he could take a picture half as good as mine he'd be buying them from him, but his all sucked. Besides, we weren't selling the pics. My cousin would sign a dozen of them and spread them out over the hood of the car for the kids to come by and get. No profit in it for us. Were were weekend racers not doing it for a living. He was just bent that a 20 year old kid with a Canon Rebel took better pics than he did. lol
YamahaMAXdRPMs
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haha, yeah i have seen those guys. Trust me, im no pro either, just trying to make a few dollars here and there, i have been on both sides of the coin. On one hand trying to have fun taking photos, and getting stares from the pros, and on the other hand trying to do a job being paid, and having aunt sue coming up with her DSLR that she doesnt know how to turn the flash off of, trying to run the show and pose people. LOL its a tough thing to do. I look at it like a car mechanic. He has a business where he has alot of overhead and has to charge more for an oil change. He wouldnt want someone coming up and offering to do oil changes for $10 right outside. Sure is it cheaper? yes, but there is no overhead, so he can afford to be cheaper. Not only that, but when something breaks, the mechanics shop is still going to be there, what happened to the stranger in the parking lot? lol
AAAANNNYYWWAAYY... so how about them shirts? i got a bout 10 orders on Monday, and nothing since! where is everybody at? LOL Gotta get to about 20-25 until I can put an order in. lets keep em coming
:iconbeer:I want to, but I still haven't gotten a response on being able to use credit/debit through paypal like on etsy/amazon/newegg
...stupid spending limit on my paypal account...YamahaMAXdRPMs
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I honestly do not know how you would order with a credit card. I think you would just open a paypal account, and use your credit card as your funding option.
As far as quality, they are top notch, ask the guys on the FZ6 forum
As far as quality, they are top notch, ask the guys on the FZ6 forum
It says I've reached my spending limit until I verify my account by linking my bank, it doesn't seem to say it will do that with my debit. stupid paypal and my bank don't get along for some reason, fraud alert ftw
might as well try and see if the card does it lol
might as well try and see if the card does it lol
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YamahaMAXdRPMs
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Bump! C'mon shirt sales! cant just be 14 people who want them? :zombie:
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I hope they don't sell out I have to wait till I get paid next week, I will definitely get one but I am considering 2. BTW, I haven't had a chance to respond but I really love the shirts, you all did a great job on design I give two thumbs up!! I do like the fact that 15% goes to the forum also that's just one more reason for me to get one or as I said 2.
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