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ry-mac75

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Not sure if anyone out there is tooling around without a bucket in the US - but if you are, they're looking at helmet laws again....

Helmet use targeted by federal government

Motorcycle safety, specifically state helmet laws or the lack thereof, is back on the federal government’s mind. The National Transportation Safety Board today added motorcycle safety to its "Most Wanted" list of safety improvements. The board specifically recommended that helmets be required to wear. Currently that’s the case in only 20 states. "State governments are in a unique position to effect the most significant improvement in certain areas of transportation safety," transportation board Chairman Deborah Hersman said. "Our Most Wanted List spotlights those states that have made noteworthy progress in better protecting the traveling public — and those that have not." An Associated Press article noted the board can’t force states to enact tougher helmet laws. Motorcycle fatalities fell in 2009, but the transportation board still sees room for improvement.
 
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dart1963

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hmmm, think most of us do wear and recommend wearing a lid...

but I really think they overstep their authority sometimes, it's one thing to protect me from other drivers (cell phone ban, makeup ban, reading ban), but another to tell me how to save myself (seatbelts, helmets, air bags).

Got a link for this?
 
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ry-mac75

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It was just a quick hit on the powersports business newsletter today.

I've always felt that a head that needed to be told it must be protected, wasn't worth protecting anyway :)
 
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Marthy

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I will be the first to ban all cell phone while driving! I'm using it sometime, I'm not saying that I'm preaching by example. And for the helmet law, sure! I'm all for it. The way I see it, helmet are like condoms. With luck you can be alright without it for quite sometime... But I bet that those that don't wear helmets probably worry more about there d^%$ than there head... lol
 
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Fogride

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What else?

Could be the govt.is just trying to save what few tax payers they have left. They need our money to give to all the citizens who don't work.
I have always worn a helmet but it was my decision, I'm a big boy now and I can take care of myself. I wonder when they will get around to approved foot wear, gloves, eye protection or even air bags or air jackets. How about training wheels? If it's so dangerous why not outlaw it? Think of the health care savings. WHEW! I needed to vent.
 
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Uno979

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Well since Texas follows the constitution and with the federal gov not having jurisdiction there that a forced helm law will not uphold. I do cringe when I see those w/o helmets.
I agree with one thing for sure. Out law cell phone use unless it's handsfree via Bluetooth or through car speakers. Why ? Because then helmet communications ie scala rider would be banned too. Which brings me to the point... Those that don't wear helmets can't use it :D
 
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dart1963

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Marthy, you crack me up!

Fogride, yep!

I can understand a program designed to show the benefits, to encourage safety... but ultimately, we need to decide for ourselves.

Like I said, I think I've seen many ppl on here who agree it's a necessity, but we don't need a "law" to tell us how to be safe.... laws should be limited to preventing us from hurting others...
 
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Kspalla

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I agree that we need to choose for ourselfs, just another government intrusion into our lives. We don't have much freedom left in this "land of the free"!!!!!

............................... ok there is where i need to stop or this could get ugly.

I wear mine but i have something important to protect and i realize that.
to each his own
 
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sammy56

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Get use to the intrusion! As long as government takes a greater role and risk in providing healthcare, the government will take whatever measures are necessary to lower their financial risk. So, if there is a belief that lack of motorcycle helmet laws increase the cost of health care, and the gov't is providing healthcare, you better believe that stricter helmet laws are on the way. Feds can easily "influence" by simply holding back funds to states that don't comply....happens all the time. Why do you think Lousiana now has a drinking age of 21!!

I could not care less since I where a lid anyway.

LB
 
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ry-mac75

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sammy56 said:
Get use to the intrusion! As long as government takes a greater role and risk in providing healthcare, the government will take whatever measures are necessary to lower their financial risk. So, if there is a belief that lack of motorcycle helmet laws increase the cost of health care, and the gov't is providing healthcare, you better believe that stricter helmet laws are on the way. Feds can easily "influence" by simply holding back funds to states that don't comply....happens all the time. Why do you think Lousiana now has a drinking age of 21!!

I could not care less since I where a lid anyway.

LB
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Whoa whoa whoa... wait... there was a state that had a drinking law under 21 and I'm just hearing about it NOW?! HAHAHA - I thought all states had a hard n' fast rule of no booze til 21. Not to get off on a tangent - but I'm going to. I've never understood how, at the age of 18, you're responsible enough to drive/ride, vote, fight AND die for your country - but you can't have a beer for 3 more years. Never made a lick of sense to me.
 
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dart1963

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ry-mac75 said:
Whoa whoa whoa... wait... there was a state that had a drinking law under 21 and I'm just hearing about it NOW?! HAHAHA - I thought all states had a hard n' fast rule of no booze til 21. Not to get off on a tangent - but I'm going to. I've never understood how, at the age of 18, you're responsible enough to drive/ride, vote, fight AND die for your country - but you can't have a beer for 3 more years. Never made a lick of sense to me.
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I forget what governor it was in LA that did that, but the drinking age was never set, the buying age was set at 21 (to "comply" with the fed, make the age or lose highway funds law)....

so as long as you weren't buying, you could drink away.
 
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ry-mac75

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ooooooOOOOoooooooo I see what he did there. Tricky, tricky! I like it. Sort of like Quebec... their's is 18, but is rarely enforced with much enthusiasm. I had buddies that grew up across the river in Ottawa - they started hitting bars in Hull @ 15. When I moved to Ottawa, I could hit any bar, pick up whatever booze I wanted @ 17... and I was one of those 17 year old kids that looked 15.
 
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gearhead

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Kspalla said:
I agree that we need to choose for ourselfs, just another government intrusion into our lives. We don't have much freedom left in this "land of the free"!!!!!

............................... ok there is where i need to stop or this could get ugly.

I wear mine but i have something important to protect and i realize that.
to each his own
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I do not need the government to protect me from myself. What's next? Mandatory leathers? Training wheels? I know, maybe a safety cage... oh wait, that's a car. We all know it's the insurance companies who are behind this because, God knows, they do not make enough profit. :rolleyes:
 

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Kspalla

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Its amazing to hear about how much gets sacraficed in the name of politics!!!

the big companies that rule this land and government can get away with murder so whats a little thing like a helmet law....? i get that its a good idea and i do anyway but it should be our choice just like it was our choice, what bike to get in what color and GEAR!!!
Maybe next it will be :you can have only these three bikes to choose from and these two colors so everyone is submitting to the "Man"
BS
 
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