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DanielW0830

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checked the chain slack and its ok. nice & tight.
Everything else on the 600 mi list is pretty basic.

Note to all: Get the oil filter wrench adapter.
it was sooooooooooooo easy to get the oil filter off.
(in seconds) :steve:
(lots of o's to emphasize how easy it was)

I got the Mobil M1-108 oil filter @ Advanced Auto Parts.
& MOBIL 1 RACING 4T 10W/40

Considered AMSOIL, but seems like some sort of oil cult
& I can't buy it unless I'm on a preferred customer list?
huh? :eyebrow:

Whole job took about 1 hr.
Should have taken less time, but I attempted to use my swing arm stand by myself and could seem to lift it.
(newbie!)
 
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itbeme91

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oh snap, well like ive mentioned before this is my first bike ever and just going by what the dealer told me and he said at 600miles either you do an oil change or bring it and we'll do it for $250. so yeah i guess ill go buy oil and filter monday and do it then. thanks for the heads up.
 
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MikeN02

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itbeme91 said:
oh snap, well like ive mentioned before this is my first bike ever and just going by what the dealer told me and he said at 600miles either you do an oil change or bring it and we'll do it for $250. so yeah i guess ill go buy oil and filter monday and do it then. thanks for the heads up.
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It's ok if you don't but it's better if you do. I didn't do my first oil change until 600 mi like you, then I went it again at 4,000 mi.

Have about 6893 miles right now so my 8000mi is coming up soon.
 
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Marthy

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I changed mine at 500 miles. It was about time... I used the Mobile1 M1-110 oil filter with Rotella 5W40 full Synthetic. The bike run great. A special thanks to all of you for the tips. I don't think I will wait to 4000 miles for the next oil change, I might do it every 2000 miles or so.
 
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CDN6R

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itbeme91 said:
oh snap, well like ive mentioned before this is my first bike ever and just going by what the dealer told me and he said at 600miles either you do an oil change or bring it and we'll do it for $250. so yeah i guess ill go buy oil and filter monday and do it then. thanks for the heads up.
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$250? Holy crap that seems like allot. My dealer did my 1st oil change last June using Yamaha filter/ Yamhalube oil checked everything over,adjusted chain,:Total? A little over $70.00 CDN.
 
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dart1963

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CDN6R said:
$250? Holy crap that seems like allot. My dealer did my 1st oil change last June using Yamaha filter/ Yamhalube oil checked everything over,adjusted chain,:Total? A little over $70.00 CDN.
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Now that sounds like a more reasonable charge for a first service!:D
 
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kevcoop

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My dealer wants to charge $200.00 for my first service.
 
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FitZ6R

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dart1963 said:
I hope you've changed it more than just at 600 miles....

If you'll do some searches on here, you'll see that most of us changed the oil at least twice before hitting 600. There's just so much junk in there from the engine breaking in.
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At least twice before 600 miles? Does that mean some people did it 3 or more times, as in every 150 or 200 miles? And how could you be sure that "most of us" (out of 1,400+ forum members) did early changes?

Not trying to be a jerk, but I think the supposed benefits of excessive maintenance get blown out of proportion. If people want to do it, I won't knock it, but why post this dire warning and alarm a new owner that he's harmed his bike by dutifully following the maintenance schedule?

Daniel, I think you'll be just fine.
 
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DanielW0830

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The service manual said 600.
The bike has *hardly* ever been above 7k rpms.
Seen a highway for about 30 seconds since it was bought Oct 09.

Almost all 600 miles were at 30-40 mph
@ 4-5k rpms.

(I baby her huh...)

I was surprised to see any noticeable metal in the oil.
So I'm not too concerned about changing it @ 600 miles.
I will however change it again @ 1200.
Just to be on the safe side. ;)

dart1963 said:
I hope you've changed it more than just at 600 miles....

If you'll do some searches on here, you'll see that most of us changed the oil at least twice before hitting 600. There's just so much junk in there from the engine breaking in.

http://www.600cc.org/forum/f88/should-i-change-my-oil-16480/

http://www.600cc.org/forum/f87/did-my-very-first-oil-change-18985/
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Roaddawg

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FitZ6R said:
At least twice before 600 miles? Does that mean some people did it 3 or more times, as in every 150 or 200 miles? And how could you be sure that "most of us" (out of 1,400+ forum members) did early changes?

Not trying to be a jerk, but I think the supposed benefits of excessive maintenance get blown out of proportion. If people want to do it, I won't knock it, but why post this dire warning and alarm a new owner that he's harmed his bike by dutifully following the maintenance schedule?

Daniel, I think you'll be just fine.
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Yeah, I followed the owners manual! First time at 600.
 
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dart1963

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FitZ6R said:
At least twice before 600 miles? Does that mean some people did it 3 or more times, as in every 150 or 200 miles? And how could you be sure that "most of us" (out of 1,400+ forum members) did early changes?

Not trying to be a jerk, but I think the supposed benefits of excessive maintenance get blown out of proportion. If people want to do it, I won't knock it, but why post this dire warning and alarm a new owner that he's harmed his bike by dutifully following the maintenance schedule?

Daniel, I think you'll be just fine.
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Ah, just went back and read my post.... thought I put it down right, but finger typing faster than the brain. Not "at least twice"... good catch... but more that "at least some of us twice"... meaning, most people posting changed it once before 600 and some of us twice.

Never said he'd "harm the bike", just said there is so much junk in there during the break-in....
You're right, it's totally up to you to maintain you're bike. "Most" of the people that talked about it said they did it before 600, some as soon as they got home, because they didn't trust the oil in the bike from the dealer. Especially if you are buying a bike that has been sitting on the dealer floor for months (now up to a year), and may have been fired up a couple of times... you just don't know. I'm a firm believer that any vehicle's life expectancy is determined in the first couple of hundred miles, and how it is taken care of.

Also, Yamaha only recommends Yamalube and their oil filter... I'm sure you'll be fine if you just use it too.
 
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TheProjectBoy

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For those that waited until 600 miles for the first service its not necessary to have it changed prior. I just had my service done today and my bike runs lean, clean, and smooth. There is little to no vibration (discussed on another thread) at 6-7 RPM. It ran so smooth that I was afraid to take it more than 70mph as this is my first bike and never went passed 55-60 during break-in period. I know that some of us would rather perform the first service ourselves, but would not probably recommend unless you know exactly what the technician at the dealership does. I don't now what they did, but it feels like I have a different bike. The cost was not pleasant though e.g., $165, but perhaps well worth it. If anyone have any idea other than the service manual please share.

Be safe out there, Freddie
 
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dart1963

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I'm sure your bike will be fine if you wait until the 600 miles like the owners manual says, and if anything happens, you would be covered under the warranty for the first year. That much, is fact.

But if that is all you are worried about, then why run different oil and an oil filter designed for cars (Yamaha only gives you their oil and filter as a recommended)? Does anyone use the recommended oil and filter? If you do, o.k., if you've decided you know better than Yamaha about what oil and filter, then why would you run their oil in the bike for 600 miles, during the critical break-in period of the bike? You obviously don't trust/like their oil and filter.

This, obviously, is my opinion and the opinion of others, but I changed the oil before 600 miles. I now follow the normal schedule, it's just the first couple hundred miles, once again my opinion and others, that the extra oil changes "help" in the long run.
 

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DanielW0830

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Boy... wasn't my intention to start such a long thread. :)
On a positive note. . . shifting seems a bit smoother with synthetic oil.
Not such a big "clunk" when I switch gears.

Oh,, also the temps seem a tad lower. I was running around 220 230 when I got to work.
I was 170 or 190 (can't recall) (Was a cooler day today than previous days... so I'll have to watch)
 
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