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My take on the FZ6R after mountain ride

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Hi all,
Being from South Florida we never really get the chance to ride the hills as of course, we have none. Not unless you count a garbage pile or two. Anyway, I had the pleasure of riding the bike in the mountains of NC during the past week and had some thoughts to share with you. Keep in mind that my last bike was a 1200 class sport tour from BMW and was ridden extensively through the mountains. This is what my comparitive is based on.

First off, 600cc is plenty. For those of you that believe that you need something with a larger displacement for mountain roads, you better see your doctor. I had my doubts before I left home but I am a believer now. If your in the mountains and feel you need something more in the way of power then you might be nuts. I ran into plenty of sport bike riders that could and would pass me like I was standing still dispite taking turns at 50 and straights at up to 70 at times. (most times I keep it sane) Many of the riders may be good but riding like this puts everyone at excessive risk. During our ride on the Cherohola on Saturday my good friend was hit by an out of control sport bike rider who basically did his impression of a vehicular slide tackle. My friend on a Concours and this guy on a 1100 something. His bike was too smashed up to tell anything more then the the fact that it was a Suzuki. Neither died but both went to the hospital. My guy with the broken leg and the other with unknown injuries aside from head trama. The gear kept both from getting a scratch. WEAR THE GEAR. Amazing, after seeing the aftermath how nobody failed to loose any skin is a mystery!!

The bike itself pulled out of turns very well and was very tractable in most gears one would expect to use. Typically 3-4 and allowing the engine to work harder. All depends on conditions of course. Suffice to say there was no longing for power. The suspension was also working well. Not perfect but well enough for sane or slightly insane street riding in the mountains. I weigh 200, kept the shock set at 3, and while I am not perfect, I can ride pretty well. I had no issues with bottoming out or rebound. Handling was well within reason as long as you keep in mind being on the street, not the track. I did observe some flex in the front end as I could hear the brakes slightly distort and rub the front rotors in turns but it did not seem to affect handling. Braking was fade free and hauled the bike down in all conditions. I never found myself needing more. I do have braded front lines however. Although braded would not make that much difference anyhow.

I mention all of this as I am reading how people want to upgrade the suspension, brakes, or other aspects. They long for a larger engine or feel that they might ride better with more exotic stuff. I have to disagree. Any good rider (a professional) could likely run circles around most of the kids riding high end sport bikes on the road, never mind the track! The stock FZ6R will do everything you want it to do within the limitations of road riding. It will do it more comfortably then a high end bike as well.

My opinion, having put the bike through hell over the last week, is that an
FZ6R is as much as this rider will ever need just the way it is. It performed very well. Why mess with success?

Ed
 
It is a great bike, but the suspension still sucks :thumbdown:

For any spirited mountain roads, it is just not up to par. Sure it will be fine if you are not pushing hard. I just came off of a 100+ mile of crazy mountain roads and it sucked in the corners. It CAN be a lot better, so why not. Its cheap upgrade. When you really get on it and take it to its limits, the suspension is its definite weak spot.
 
It is a great bike, but the suspension still sucks :thumbdown:

For any spirited mountain roads, it is just not up to par. Sure it will be fine if you are not pushing hard. I just came off of a 100+ mile of crazy mountain roads and it sucked in the corners. It CAN be a lot better, so why not. Its cheap upgrade. When you really get on it and take it to its limits, the suspension is its definite weak spot.

yup front springs really help :D
 
I'm going to kick the rear shock up to 6 and hope to hit the mountains on Saturday. I weigh 250 so 3 probably won't suit to well. I have a feeling it'll be fine becasue like you, I don't really want to exceed the leagal speed limit enough to get cited.
 
I'm going to kick the rear shock up to 6 and hope to hit the mountains on Saturday. I weigh 250 so 3 probably won't suit to well. I have a feeling it'll be fine becasue like you, I don't really want to exceed the leagal speed limit enough to get cited.

My rule of thumb is 20 mph over the speed limit on the turns is fine. Anything past that and the margin for safety shrinks rapidly.
At 250lbs, push the shock to 7, the bike will initiate turns a lot faster and the push technique works perfectly. Be safe!;)
 
I agree to a point.

It is a great bike, but the suspension still sucks :thumbdown:

For any spirited mountain roads, it is just not up to par. Sure it will be fine if you are not pushing hard. I just came off of a 100+ mile of crazy mountain roads and it sucked in the corners. It CAN be a lot better, so why not. Its cheap upgrade. When you really get on it and take it to its limits, the suspension is its definite weak spot.

I suppose most of the riding I do is on flat land and it seems many of the roads around here (south Florida) are beat up. The economy has the local governments skimping on repairs. For this reason I am actually happy the suspension is not that stiff. I suppose progressive springs would be worthwhile but I question the expense. As I said, I am a good rider, not the best out there, but good. I had the bike leaned over nearly to the point of scraping in many occasions. I did catch my boot once or twice but they have the slider blocks on them. The fueling on this bike is smooth and the torque curve very flat. I was able to pull away from curves very smoothly without any drama from the suspension. Unless there was some washboard or rocks to upset my line I was rock solid all the time. I never had any compression issues that you can encounter when the suspension compresses and alters your line. I have had that on other bikes near the limit. Two things may be at play. I weigh 200# if a rider is much heavier the suspension may react to centrifical force much differently. If one ratchets up the preload on the shock the soft front fork will react differently. I also tend to get off the saddle during an aggressive turn in. I will actually hang off the side of the bike and use my body weight as well as head and hand position to set up my line. It may be taking much of the loading off the suspension during tight curves. If your riding style is more agressive then you might be better served with a more purpose built bike. For me, the all around capabilities of this bike strike a good balance. These 40 something bones do not, and likely can not, take the beating an R6 or other straight sport bike will dish out! However if I did aquire a bike like that you can bet I would be riding it like all the 20 somethings out there. Scares me to think about it.

Have a good one and thanks for writing back!

Ed
 
I only wish my bones were still 40 something. I just hit 54 last month. I know I couldn't take a real sport bike. I was actually looking at a cruiser style bike, but they are just so damn expensive and don't handle for crap. My brothers got a cruiser and gives me grief about riding my crotch rockets. I told him this is the closeest thing to a "standard" model that I could find. I like the upright seating position and want the bike to handle when I do hit the mountains. Not really going to get that with a cruiser. Maybe I'll get a cruiser when I'm old.
 
I really appreciated the well written thread. I, too, went for a 166 mile jaunt through the twist mountain roads of Colorado today. I rode with a retired gentleman on a pristine older model Yamaha inline 850 cc twin touring/sport bike. This man can really ride, and we were, at times, getting after it on the twisties. At elevations up to 11,000 above sea level, I still had no problems with being underpowered. I have a little front end dive, that I am working on a cheap solution for, but it handled great. Looking at my "chicken strips", I had about 1/8" of tire left on the sides that was not used. That was plenty of lean angle for me, considering the amount of sand on the road in places, after still getting snow just last week.

The brakes were fine, although my front brakes are a little spongy for my liking. Some steel braided lines and a different fluid will take care of that issue though.

I really think Yamaha hit the nail on the head with this bike. It does exactly what it needs to do, a reasonably priced entry level, sport, touring, commuter bike. The balance of comfort without giving up too much performance. If you want a track bike, the options are endless (ie. R6, R1, CBR600RR, etc) , and this bike would take some upgrades.

Just for the record, I weigh 185 with gear, rear shock at 6, works great for cornering, beats the P*ss out of me just cruising down our freeways....
 
Good write-up. The people that want more power would probable buy an R6 or R1 or whatever and STILL want to upgrade performance components on it as well. You gotta take this bike for what its intended for.....good at everything, master of none.
 
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