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MAP Question (WITH PICS!)


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Hey guys,

Recently installed an R6 header, Yoshimura can, Blackpath block-off plates, and PCFC.

I'm currently running the "Two Brothers Full Exhaust" MAP from the Power Commander website, because it's certainly better than running lean.

I downloaded Marthy's Viper Sport RevA MAP because it says it's best for the TwoBros Juicebox (which is what the PCFC essentially is).

I was wondering if anyone can explain to me why there are such major differences between the two maps for what seems to be very similar exhaust setups.

Also, which MAP would you think is the better one to run with my mentioned setup?

Here are pics of the MAPs for comparison:

Power Commander "Two Bros Full Exhaust"

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Marthy's Viper Sport RevA

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Hey! You're that motovlogger dude I subbed to. ;)

sorry I can't be of help here brother.... hopefully marthy will be along shortly to give some guidance.
 
MrFrzZ said:
Hey! You're that motovlogger dude I subbed to. ;)

sorry I can't be of help here brother.... hopefully marthy will be along shortly to give some guidance.
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LMAO hey! You're the subscriber that likes to give me crap about my factory brake setup! :rof:

Yep that would be awesome if Marthy himself could provide his thoughts. His map has WAY more detailed and complex fuel trims.
 
Half-Click Up said:
LMAO hey! You're the subscriber that likes to give me crap about my factory brake setup! :rof:

Yep that would be awesome if Marthy himself could provide his thoughts. His map has WAY more detailed and complex fuel trims.
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Hey, if you're wanting to go faster, ya gotta stop better lol I'm looking out for ya! :cool:

#SSlinesmasterrace!!
#slackingonmyuploads

I've got my last ride on my Fizzer to upload, and I think my next will be a vid on my Wife's ninjette 4-hundy lol



Shoot Marthy a PM!!!
 
Its a youtube party in here :D

Everyone swears by Marthy. Ive also heard some bad things about the TBR map anyways. Ive been running adv gear rev b for probably a year now and am extrememly happy. I want to try his other map... Im blanking... The sport one
 
TexanFZ6R said:
Its a youtube party in here :D

Everyone swears by Marthy. Ive also heard some bad things about the TBR map anyways. Ive been running adv gear rev b for probably a year now and am extrememly happy. I want to try his other map... Im blanking... The sport one
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Yeah unfortunately I can't run the ADV Gear map because it requires the PCV speed sensor attachment, which isn't compatible with my PCFC.

The sport one is what I've downloaded. Think I'll shoot a vlog about it when I install the map... why not? :cool:
 
Whatsaaap!

Basically they are different because one of them sucks LOL Only one way to find out is to try both but I'm quite sure, like many others, that you will ride my map. You need to adjust your idle on the LH side if I remember well, Phillips head srew. Turn it until you get about 1300 rpm or so, can't remember the magic number exactly.

Advgear maps are Sport in gear 1-4th & Touring 5-6th. Only difference between both is leaner under 20% throttle in Touring, same map over 20% throttle. If you feel like your bike turn out to ride with poor MPG, switch to Touring map only.
 
I know you can't use the AdvGear RevB, but I found this interesting after using it for 6 months or so. I normally ride country roads which are a combo of ripping on it pretty hard and 50mph cruising.. I avg 40mpg. Pretty much 39-41 MPG. Maybe on tank at 38 and one at 45. Most of those numbers are with a corrected speedo/odometer, so it's more accurate.

I only have gone on one long 200 mile highway trip which was 90% 70MPH. And I got.... 49MPG!!!!!

My Fizzer keeps up with my son's SV650 (actually it's a tad faster 0-60)... and he is rejetted w/Yoshi exhaust, and any of my friends bad-*ss street bikes on the low end.

I was shocked by that highway mileage number. Martin IS the man!
 
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Thanks so much for the replies, fellas!

And especially to Marthy, I really appreciate your feedback.

I think it goes without saying that I'm gonna install the Sport RevA map, and I'll also adjust my idle if it's still at 1050.

Will report back here with the results and a link to the vlog so that it'll help some folks!
 
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Okay fellas I'm running the Sport RevA map and have bumped my idle up a bit. No issues to speak of.

Here's the vlog of the process if anyone's interested:

https://youtu.be/gTPBRDlRh-4
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Cool stuff LOL
I didn't know the website was still on? I shut it down like 2 years ago LOL. Ah well... Sport map is one map for all gears, same for Touring map. Advgear is map per gear. You could upload the Touring map to map4 maybe? You can work those maps like an excel spreadsheet, so if you like the decel you can copy & paste it to Touring map. ONly difference was 5% fuel trim in the cruising range under 20% throttle, like from 4K RPM up to 8K.
 
Marthy said:
Cool stuff LOL
I didn't know the website was still on? I shut it down like 2 years ago LOL. Ah well... Sport map is one map for all gears, same for Touring map. Advgear is map per gear. You could upload the Touring map to map4 maybe? You can work those maps like an excel spreadsheet, so if you like the decel you can copy & paste it to Touring map. ONly difference was 5% fuel trim in the cruising range under 20% throttle, like from 4K RPM up to 8K.
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Yeah dude, site is live and the map files are all there for download! :cool:

As for the Advgear maps, am I correct in understanding that the Dynojet speed sensor attachment is required on the PCV in order to run them?
I've got the newer (and simpler) PCFC, so I don't have attachment options.
 
Half-Click Up said:
Yeah dude, site is live and the map files are all there for download! :cool:

As for the Advgear maps, am I correct in understanding that the Dynojet speed sensor attachment is required on the PCV in order to run them?
Yes, you're right.
I've got the newer (and simpler) PCFC, so I don't have attachment options.
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Advgear map is not required to be honest. The map can be MPG unfriendly compare to Touring, depend what's your thing. If you're hitting some back road the Sport map is nice and smooth and you can switch to Touring if you're doing a long weekend trip.

Glad you liked it! Nice video too
 

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