Yes, I am turning my FZ into a Cafe Racer and want to change out the speedo to be more old school while still retaining the digital age.All it need is a signal. I installed some of that stuff on old racecars. If you can program the speedo (trigger per turn and wheel diameter) you can probably use the sensor that you have. Just hook the signal wire.
Is this for a special project? You can find a speedo on ebay...
Assuming you are in 6th gear, the acceleration from 60 to 80 would be slightly slower in my opinion. At 60 mph your RPMs are going to be a little lower with the +1 compared to the stock. The 6R maxes out power at 9,000 RPM (~estimate) and stock will have higher RPM at 60 mph than +1. Both stock and +1 will be a long way from 9K RPM at 60 mph in 6th gear. Would the acceleration difference actually be noticeable? My guess is it would not be significant.Pickles, it would be really useful to compare acceleration from 60 mph to 80 mph. Does the +1/+0 perform a little more competitively there? I'd much rather have more acceleration available on the highway than off the line.
If you're talking about 60-80mph acceleration in top gear (6th), here's what my calculations come up with...Pickles, it would be really useful to compare acceleration from 60 mph to 80 mph. Does the +1/+0 perform a little more competitively there? I'd much rather have more acceleration available on the highway than off the line.
Lets just say I agree to disagree. Not launching faster but using less time pressing the gear lever, I have raced for years and have used this to blast past lots of riders, it works, all there is to it.If you can launch faster on the FZ6R in 2nd gear, then you are doing something wrong. 1st gear gives you more acceleration, and not so much that it's unusable.
The only way a 2nd gear launch would be better is if 1st gear is so excessively powerful AND short that it's unusable because you redline very quickly while spinning tires uncontrollably. This has actually been reported to be true for one of those small almost-a-go-kart cars (can't remember if it was the Ariel Atom, or the T-Rex).
The FZ6R definitely does not suffer from this problem. As requested, here's some 1st and 2nd gear launch comparisons with -1/+0 sprockets:
1/4 mile (hard launch)
1st: 12.24s @ 104.6mph
2nd: 12.76s @ 104.5mph
0-60mph (hard launch)
0-100mph (hard launch)
Yeah blinkers are usually separate, get a manual and the wiring diagram is there.So If i get the Universal speedo Koso DL Universal Electronic Speedometer - Electrical - sportbike - Superbike Toy Store - 1.866.999.9823 and go with the old school front wheel sensor, then I can ditch the current speedo right?
If I ditch the current speedo then how do I control my turn signals and brake light, would that mean that the turn signals and brake light have to have independent wiring now?
Again, sorry, total NOOB at this stuff.
Then you shift way too slowLets just say I agree to disagree. Not launching faster but using less time pressing the gear lever, I have raced for years and have used this to blast past lots of riders, it works, all there is to it.
quite an arrogant response there! Maths can be wrong (global warming charts anyone? lol) , its only as good as the person putting the data in (and that data) and the person interpreting that data.Then you shift way too slow
If you launch in 2nd, then you give up several seconds worth of significantly more acceleration off the line in 1st to avoid spending a quarter second shifting from 1st to 2nd.
My simulations take into consideration shifting times (and the deceleration that happens during that time). The math doesn't lie, and you can disagree with it all you want, but it's not a matter of opinion.
It might work in a V8 muscle car with lots of low end torque, a short 1st gear, and relatively slower shifts than a motorcycle. But I guarantee you a 2nd gear launch will not be faster on an FZ6R unless you are doing something very wrong.
quite an arrogant response there!
In this context, you must be referring to me having an exaggerated sense of the abilities of my simulation. I could go into detail about how my simulation works if you really want me to, then you might understand how I have a non-exaggerated amount of confidence in the ability of my simulation to properly determine that a 1st gear launch is the fastest way to accelerate on an FZ6R.Arrogant: Having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one's own importance or abilities.
(NOTE: Knowing "exactly" how fast a particular person can shift is irrelevant. See towards the end of this post where I determined that you'd have to shift extraordinarily slow for 2nd gear to be faster)So, from your calculations, you know the EXACT time it takes for EVERYONE to shift up??? Dont be foolish!
Sorry, this show is now over... unless someone wants to meet up with me and try to prove to me that in "the real world" things are so much different than my simulation that a 2nd gear launch will beat a 1st gear launch on an FZ6Ropcorn:..........:rockon: